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Message: <blockquote data-quote="king_ghidorah" data-source="post: 1891351" data-attributes="member: 18404">Nonsense. Games like Empire of the Petal Throne and Runequest were trying to change that nature of RPGs as early as the mid-to-late 1970s. D&D and its imitators were like that, but the fringe of the hobby was exploring other facets of Role-playing games since early on.This is nonsensicle. Should gamers insist games not be made for them? Buy product they don't want? It's selfish to write RPGs that reflect what you would like, and instead you should churn out product aimed at teens?The RPG of my youth-- AD&D 1st edition-- wasn't written that way. And the original D&D wasn't written that way. While it was arguable that most of the Basic-Expert-etc. D&D line and D&D second edition were, that's a questionable argument. In fact, I have seen plenty of RPGs aimed at younger or new gamers fail miserably, from Prince Valiant to Everway, and not all of them because they stank.I doubt that's a worthwhile path, especially since it has been walked again and again without success. RPGs are hard to teach out of the box. Of course, I came into the hobby the way most people seem to-- being recruited by friends.The only way I see the hobby expanding is by interpersonal networks, and from what I see, the lack of face-to-face interpersonal connection and bonding between teens is what is killing the hobby. And most incoming college students' social and communication skills.Guys my age had an attitude of D&D being a stupid kids' game. Adult gamers had nothing but negative interaction with me. And I double there would have been a way for them to recruit me or any of my friends. The hobby tapped into a need for a group of us for social interaction and adventure. And, quite frankly, I'm not sure how, given the work and effort that RPGs require to run and coordinate, how we can compete with network games-- especially MMORPGs-- which don't require a kid to come up with adventures, figure out transportation, schedule a time with buddies-- or even find people to play with. The issue of "fringe game" alienating potential audience seems at best vastly overblown.</blockquote>

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