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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 1892436" data-attributes="member: 6957">They are not complex terms - they are the correct ones to use. Your error/mistake/stupidity/trick (take your pick) is a common one, it has a term for describing it. This is the reason I used the term - to show that it is common enough to get a term. Your statement is rather like insisting that people use the phrase 'the disease that makes you forget stuff' rather than saying 'Alzheimer's'. The term exists, so I use it. I also assumed some people would not have familiarity with the term so I described it as well, letting them know that it is in fact a common error, and more, it is used by politicians, trolls, and con men to 'substantiate' empty arguments. It is a technique of verbal trickery.And the word 'causality' seems pretty self explanatory.And your second argument is demonstrably rubbish, nearly every one of the 20 some odd players brought in by WoD that I can name play other games as well, whether D20, Roll & Keep,GURPS, or Savage Worlds. By far the most common of these is D20, but these are all popular with them (and most play several of them). I can name only 3 who only play WoD, and of those two only play the LARP. Shall we ask for a show of hands? I suspect that there are members of this forum who were brought into the hobby by the Storyteller system.On the flip side I have met people who will only play D20, GURPS, and in one sad case Rolemaster. I have also met a player who insisted that D20 was created by WotC purely to put GURPS out of business.The Auld Grump</blockquote>

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