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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Amphimir Míriel" data-source="post: 4845384" data-attributes="member: 55933">ggroy, let me give you a small list of what we 4E fans are into, which may be absent from previous editions:1.- Class and Race balance (the Wizard does not overpower the Fighter, at any level)2.- The At-Will/Encounter/Daily power mechanics allow everybody to have interesting things to do on each round, not just the spellcasters.3.- DMs can make NPCs and Monsters with any abilities demanded by the story, not with those demanded by the character creation rules.4.- Class and Race balance (the Bard is a useful character to have, not the comic relief)5.- Healing Surge mechanics model the "action movie" paradigm and eliminate the need for someone to play a "healbot" character or for the party to carry tons of potions or wands6.- Level based encounter creation rules allow DMs to create interesting combat encounters quickly (useful for those times when the players go somewhere not originally intended)7.- Class and Race balance (no CoDzilla and the Paladin is still interesting at level 10)8.- DMG Page 42 allows DMs to "say yes" to stunts and manoeuvres, above and beyond what's on the players list of powers9.- Movement is a much bigger part of combat now and shifting, running, pushing, pulling and sliding are all more interesting than just standing there and stabbing the bad guy.10.- Did I mention Class and Race balance? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />These are some of the reasons why some of us find the idea of "Pathfinder as 5E"  as a very bad step backwards.</blockquote>

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