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<blockquote data-quote="Brian Chalian" data-source="post: 1134143" data-attributes="member: 14246"><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, if you're all having fun... but by the end of your post it sounds like you aren't.&nbsp; Killing is not evil.&nbsp; Killing the innocent is evil.&nbsp; Killing for fun or profit or out of duty to an evil master is evil.&nbsp; Gary himself on these very boards (April 23, 2003) said,&nbsp;&nbsp; While he is no longer involved with the game, his stance can be seen reflected in both the PH alignments and the MM behaviors.The &quot;paladin in Nazi Germany&quot; argument, for those lucky enough to either block it from their memory or never encounter it, is simple:&nbsp; Hitler passed a law requiring that all Jews must be killed.&nbsp; When a paladin visits and encounters innocent Jews, does she...A)&nbsp; Kill themB)&nbsp; Spare themA violates Good, making it an Evil act.B violated the laws of the land, making it a Chaotic act.So any paladin entering Nazi Germany was unable to take any actions, including non-action, without violating her code or alignment.Now in 3.x, lawful no longer requires obedience to the laws.&nbsp; At all.&nbsp; EVAR.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brian Chalian, post: 1134143, member: 14246"] :eek: Well, if you're all having fun... but by the end of your post it sounds like you aren't. Killing is not evil. Killing [i]the innocent[/i] is evil. Killing for fun or profit or out of duty to an evil master is evil. Gary himself on these very boards (April 23, 2003) said, While he is no longer involved with the game, his stance can be seen reflected in both the PH alignments and the MM behaviors. The "paladin in Nazi Germany" argument, for those lucky enough to either block it from their memory or never encounter it, is simple: Hitler passed a law requiring that all Jews must be killed. When a paladin visits and encounters innocent Jews, does she... A) Kill them B) Spare them A violates Good, making it an Evil act. B violated the laws of the land, making it a Chaotic act. So any paladin entering Nazi Germany was unable to take any actions, including non-action, without violating her code or alignment. Now in 3.x, lawful no longer requires obedience to the laws. At all. EVAR. [/QUOTE]

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