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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Parmandur" data-source="post: 9755807" data-attributes="member: 6780330">I mean, sure, but gritty dungeon crawling is a pretty niche and focused interest: speaking as someone who has tried to interest friends & families in DCC for years, only a subset of RPG players want that vibe. Daggerheart, on the other hand, seems to offer a broader and flexible ge re canvas with some fresh rules.I mean, DCC is still chugging along, as are tons of games, I am certain that Shadowdark will keep on doing fine.But as someone who doesn't have a horse in the race, I wouldn't bet against Daggerheart in the long run: the bones seem solid, the community has exploded to literally unprecedented levels (Shadowdark is doing very nice, but at a quote precedented level), and they have a huge media engine. Shadowdark doesn't get headlines in Hollywood newspapers.It is also worth noting that the TTRPG scene is not Zero-Sum: some people play 5E and Shadowdark, some people play 5E and Daggerheart (like Matt Mercer), some people play Shadowdark and Daggerheart, some probably play all 3. This isn't Highlander, there doesn't have to Be Only One (no matter what Ben Riggs thinks <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> ). Different games can coexist and even grow the hobby.</blockquote>