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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9758247" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I think that this is true of a lot of TTRPGs! And yet, we still manage to discuss it. Usually to argue that whatever data we get (like from the various measurements of what is selling in stores, or what is being played online) is wrong.But that's why I talk about it in terms of the future. Obviously, we can't discuss how it's doing now. But I think we will have a better (albeit incomplete) idea in the future.And I am genuinely curious as to what "success" for Daggerheart really means! I admit that I don't get it. I am "out of touch" with the youth of today, and I don't fully grok what the expectations are. Do people think it will supplant D&D? Are they thinking that it will be a popular product, but along the lines of PF2e? Or ... Call of Cthulhu?Is that setting the bar too high? I genuinely don't know. By the way, this has nothing to do with the merits of the game at all- most of the games I love were never big sellers.I am having trouble understanding what the expectations and market for the game are- not in a bad way, but just because I can't understand how the genuine enthusiasm I see for it in some places (and the difficulty with print runs) is translating into the wider community, and whether that means it's a mass-market play, or if it's supposed to be big, but just ... big for a non-Hasbro publisher way.*Know what I mean?I mean- look at this thread. It announced that a streamer that is fairly well-known (and had a Hasbro book in the past for D&D) is moving to DH. I assume that's big news? What does that say, if anything, about the ambitions for the product?*And by extension, if it's supposed to be "big big," what does it tell us if it accomplishes that? Or doesn't?</blockquote>

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