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<blockquote data-quote="mlund" data-source="post: 4457024" data-attributes="member: 50304">Dragging a man to death behind a horse wasn't considered &quot;torture&quot; - it was considered to be a means of execution.Furthermore, presumably those who are protected are the same people who were to be protected by killing the man in combat had either he not asked for quarter or his foes refused to grant him such - plus the innocents now &quot;on the radar&quot; due to pursuit of vengeance.Granting quarter and surrender usually involves a two-way agreement between captor and prisoner. Threatening to escape justice and murder your captor's family is typically a gross violation of such terms and absolves the captor of any obligation towards the prisoner.Sorry, but &quot;the insults of a broken defeated man,&quot; are not part of the equation. We're talking about a criminal who sought quarter, was granted it, and then proceeded to promise to visit death (and possibly worse) upon innocents while in the care of his captors.Paladins are neither guards nor &quot;cops.&quot; This is not &quot;OUR Lawful society.&quot; Most D&amp;D settings have nowhere near the kind of modern justice system you'd find in modern nations. They don't have the economy, literacy, or security to support it in the first place. That's why most felony-level crimes in such societies are punished by banishment, bodily mutilation (hobbling, losing a hand), or execution - while lesser crimes are typically punishable by use of stockades or a whipping post.- Marty Lund</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mlund, post: 4457024, member: 50304"] Dragging a man to death behind a horse wasn't considered "torture" - it was considered to be a means of execution. Furthermore, presumably those who are protected are the same people who were to be protected by killing the man in combat had either he not asked for quarter or his foes refused to grant him such - plus the innocents now "on the radar" due to pursuit of vengeance. Granting quarter and surrender usually involves a two-way agreement between captor and prisoner. Threatening to escape justice and murder your captor's family is typically a [B]gross[/B] violation of such terms and absolves the captor of any obligation towards the prisoner. Sorry, but "the insults of a broken defeated man," are not part of the equation. We're talking about a criminal who sought quarter, was granted it, and then proceeded to promise to visit death (and possibly worse) upon innocents while in the care of his captors. Paladins are neither guards nor "cops." This is not "OUR Lawful society." Most D&D settings have nowhere near the kind of modern justice system you'd find in modern nations. They don't have the economy, literacy, or security to support it in the first place. That's why most felony-level crimes in such societies are punished by banishment, bodily mutilation (hobbling, losing a hand), or execution - while lesser crimes are typically punishable by use of stockades or a whipping post. - Marty Lund [/QUOTE]

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