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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4457638" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Plus, let's talk about this prisoner's actions.</p><p></p><p>He's tied up, and being dragged alive on the back of a horse, which is not a pleasent experience, after being promised fair justice and a trial.</p><p></p><p>You're darn fragging right he's going to be angry, and probably spouting curses at the so-called paragon of Justice that did that. Many -Good aligned- characters would be outraged and rightfully so at such treatment.</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't know where you get your D&D from, but in my town, the 'Good' alignment indicates a measure of mercy and compassion. Good characters (and Good and Lawful Good dieties) don't look for excuses to harm people, they try to do what they can to mitigate harm when possible. The prisoner was captured, strung up, and was unarmed, and willing to be taken to justice. He was not a threat. Dragging him on the back of a horse was unnecessary and cruel, and certainly was not merciful nor compassionate. </p><p></p><p>I could see Erathis' lot being a bit vengeful at a foul mouthed villain not behaving in captivity, as the rules are a cornerstone of civilization. Perhaps the Raven Queen would see no wrong in it, depending on the orders to the Paladin.</p><p></p><p>But, Bahamut's men gave orders the prisoner be brought in for justice, which the player did not accomplish. He did not accomplish his mission because he chose to abandon his nobility and his protection for a ward he promised protection too. And he did it the moment the torture (dragging him behind the horse) began.</p><p></p><p>The character is a sadist looking for excuses to visit his trade, and is willing to bend or break his word to do so. There are other church hierarchies that will welcome him in. Bahamut is not likely one of them. Perhaps he should be approached by Banites looking for another to add to the Lord of Tyranny's ranks. This sort of thing is -expected and admired- in Bane's flock.</p><p></p><p>Let's remember the order that things happen. Prisoner surrenders, partially due to the promise of fair justice inherent in the teachings of a god one of the characters is part of the clergy for. Torture begins with the dragging behind the horse for -no reason- by said clergy. Prisoner figures (and rightly so) that he's not being given the fair justice that the clergy of Bahamut promise in their holy scriptures, and so he rebels -verbally-. Torture is escalated with the hamstringing because of this. Over days the prisoner dies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4457638, member: 71571"] Plus, let's talk about this prisoner's actions. He's tied up, and being dragged alive on the back of a horse, which is not a pleasent experience, after being promised fair justice and a trial. You're darn fragging right he's going to be angry, and probably spouting curses at the so-called paragon of Justice that did that. Many -Good aligned- characters would be outraged and rightfully so at such treatment. Now, I don't know where you get your D&D from, but in my town, the 'Good' alignment indicates a measure of mercy and compassion. Good characters (and Good and Lawful Good dieties) don't look for excuses to harm people, they try to do what they can to mitigate harm when possible. The prisoner was captured, strung up, and was unarmed, and willing to be taken to justice. He was not a threat. Dragging him on the back of a horse was unnecessary and cruel, and certainly was not merciful nor compassionate. I could see Erathis' lot being a bit vengeful at a foul mouthed villain not behaving in captivity, as the rules are a cornerstone of civilization. Perhaps the Raven Queen would see no wrong in it, depending on the orders to the Paladin. But, Bahamut's men gave orders the prisoner be brought in for justice, which the player did not accomplish. He did not accomplish his mission because he chose to abandon his nobility and his protection for a ward he promised protection too. And he did it the moment the torture (dragging him behind the horse) began. The character is a sadist looking for excuses to visit his trade, and is willing to bend or break his word to do so. There are other church hierarchies that will welcome him in. Bahamut is not likely one of them. Perhaps he should be approached by Banites looking for another to add to the Lord of Tyranny's ranks. This sort of thing is -expected and admired- in Bane's flock. Let's remember the order that things happen. Prisoner surrenders, partially due to the promise of fair justice inherent in the teachings of a god one of the characters is part of the clergy for. Torture begins with the dragging behind the horse for -no reason- by said clergy. Prisoner figures (and rightly so) that he's not being given the fair justice that the clergy of Bahamut promise in their holy scriptures, and so he rebels -verbally-. Torture is escalated with the hamstringing because of this. Over days the prisoner dies. [/QUOTE]
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