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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skyscraper" data-source="post: 4459866" data-attributes="member: 48518">Are you saying a prisoner, hands bound and being brought to justice, stating "I'll kill you and your family", is enough to torture and kill him? A couple of punches in the face ought to shut him up, if you want to get physical. Cutting his legs and dragging him for two days in agony until he dies is frickin' psycho in my book.Good point. At least in a medieval-inspired world, which is a default premise for many D&D worlds i admit.Still, D&D also has other basic premises for its game-worlds as proposed by this edition and prior editions alike, which include the definiton of alignment and what is good and what is lawful. I assume you'll agree that the act carried out by the paladin in this case falls under neither the good or lawful definitions. However, the paladin is stated by the OP as being a paladin of Bahamut and is assumed to be lawful good. Or at least, his order is assumed to be lawful good if you allow the paladin character to derail from that alignment himself.Since there is nothing in the D&D rules or in the OP's post to suggest that summary execution of a prisoner by torture is acceptable, i believe that the statement that the paladin's acts are just are unsupported.I agree. If this is the case, i retract my comment. However, for having played D&D for quite a long time now, what i've seen more often is the "i torture and kill the prisoner, oh and pass me the soda bottle please" kind of comment, wherein the player is obviously not considering what it means to actually carry out what he's saying. As you mention later, most people in our low-violence western society don't have the stomach to kill (or torture) someone, and saying that their PC does exactly that to a helpless victim is borne from ignorance of what it means IMO.What jeopardy? The guy is going to be put in prison or die after having been tried (assuming there's a trial). Of course he'll threaten everyone and his mother. He'll try to offer a bribe, then he'll tell the guy that he has powerful friends that will kill him and his children and burn down his house. The guy is DESPERATE, as he should be. Threats of murder are just another way by which the guy is trying to get himself out of his predicament. As a member of an order that brings law and order to your people, this should be your everyday bread-and-butter.This is quite true.Sky</blockquote>

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