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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6983554" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>All the replies have been correct so far, but here's a bit more info:-</p><p></p><p>* if you have nothing in your hands apart from one weapon, then switching grips from 1H to 2H, or 2H to 1H, is not an action at all and you can do it whenever you like on your own turn</p><p></p><p>* you can drop an object you are holding on your turn, and it doesn't take an action</p><p></p><p>* you can pick up an object, but this takes your free object interaction. If you do something that would require your free object interaction but you have already used it this round, then it takes your action</p><p></p><p>* there is no 'move <em>action</em>', just an distance you can move during your turn. Therefore, you cannot swap that movement for doing something else as a 'move equivalent action'. This is a change from earlier editions</p><p></p><p>* shields are not just 'held' like a weapon; you cannot just let an equipped shield go to drop it, or equip it just by holding it. A shield only gives +2 to AC when properly equipped; just 'holding' one will not improve your AC. To either equip or un-equip a shield costs you your action.</p><p></p><p>So if your example PC were holding a weapon in each hand then he could easily drop one (not an action), grip the other in both hands (not an action), attack twice (attack action with Extra Attack), switch to holding his weapon in one hand (not an action), pick up the dropped weapon, or draw a new weapon (your one free object interaction this round), and can move as and when he like during all this (up to his move) and take any bonus action he qualifies to take.</p><p></p><p>The problem with the shield bash guy doing this is that it would take his action to un-equip the shield, but because he used his bonus action to shield bash and he only had that bonus action because he's taking the attack action, he cannot take any other action except the attack action, so the 'un-equip shield' action is not available this round. Even if it was, it would be pointless to get rid of your shield in order to use your weapon 2Hed because you wouldn't have an action left with which to attack because you'd've used to to un-equip your shield. Also, you'd need both your free object interaction to pick up your dropped shield AND your action to re-equip it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 6983554, member: 6799649"] All the replies have been correct so far, but here's a bit more info:- * if you have nothing in your hands apart from one weapon, then switching grips from 1H to 2H, or 2H to 1H, is not an action at all and you can do it whenever you like on your own turn * you can drop an object you are holding on your turn, and it doesn't take an action * you can pick up an object, but this takes your free object interaction. If you do something that would require your free object interaction but you have already used it this round, then it takes your action * there is no 'move [i]action[/i]', just an distance you can move during your turn. Therefore, you cannot swap that movement for doing something else as a 'move equivalent action'. This is a change from earlier editions * shields are not just 'held' like a weapon; you cannot just let an equipped shield go to drop it, or equip it just by holding it. A shield only gives +2 to AC when properly equipped; just 'holding' one will not improve your AC. To either equip or un-equip a shield costs you your action. So if your example PC were holding a weapon in each hand then he could easily drop one (not an action), grip the other in both hands (not an action), attack twice (attack action with Extra Attack), switch to holding his weapon in one hand (not an action), pick up the dropped weapon, or draw a new weapon (your one free object interaction this round), and can move as and when he like during all this (up to his move) and take any bonus action he qualifies to take. The problem with the shield bash guy doing this is that it would take his action to un-equip the shield, but because he used his bonus action to shield bash and he only had that bonus action because he's taking the attack action, he cannot take any other action except the attack action, so the 'un-equip shield' action is not available this round. Even if it was, it would be pointless to get rid of your shield in order to use your weapon 2Hed because you wouldn't have an action left with which to attack because you'd've used to to un-equip your shield. Also, you'd need both your free object interaction to pick up your dropped shield AND your action to re-equip it. [/QUOTE]
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