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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2592416" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>And yet that's overruled by the above passage. Items require a standard action to activate unless stated otherwise... <em>except</em> when they're duplicating a spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But note - this does not appear in the item description, and we have a rule further up that says that the casting time of the spell is the activation time of the item, <em>whether it's a scroll</em>, etc, unless the <em>item description specifically states otherwise</em>.</p><p></p><p>The Spell Completion section is not the item description. It's the activation method description... and we know that the activation time of an item that duplicates a spell is dependent on the casting time of the spell, rather than being the usual standard action.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wasn't referring to a feat, but to the spell Swift Fly from Complete Adventurer. But for Core, we can just use Feather Fall.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So is 'Cast a Spell', but again, we have Feather Fall.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm? I'm not sure how your emphasis changes anything.</p><p></p><p><em>However, the casting time of a spell</em> - the casting time of Quickened spell is a free action - <em>is the time required to activate the same power <strong>in an item</strong>, whether it's a scroll, a wand, or a pair of boots, unless the item description specifically states otherwise.</em></p><p></p><p>So, the time required to activate a Quickened spell <strong>in an item</strong> is a free action, unless the item description specifically states otherwise. And it doesn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, this, I have no argument with. Retrieving your scroll with the free-action activation time is a move action, barring unusual circumstances.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The casting time of the spell - 10 minutes - is the time required to activate the same power in an item. To read a 10 minute spell off a scroll <em>takes 10 minutes</em>. Unless the item description states otherwise, but it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2592416, member: 1656"] And yet that's overruled by the above passage. Items require a standard action to activate unless stated otherwise... [i]except[/i] when they're duplicating a spell. But note - this does not appear in the item description, and we have a rule further up that says that the casting time of the spell is the activation time of the item, [i]whether it's a scroll[/i], etc, unless the [i]item description specifically states otherwise[/i]. The Spell Completion section is not the item description. It's the activation method description... and we know that the activation time of an item that duplicates a spell is dependent on the casting time of the spell, rather than being the usual standard action. I wasn't referring to a feat, but to the spell Swift Fly from Complete Adventurer. But for Core, we can just use Feather Fall. So is 'Cast a Spell', but again, we have Feather Fall. Hmm? I'm not sure how your emphasis changes anything. [i]However, the casting time of a spell[/i] - the casting time of Quickened spell is a free action - [i]is the time required to activate the same power [b]in an item[/b], whether it's a scroll, a wand, or a pair of boots, unless the item description specifically states otherwise.[/i] So, the time required to activate a Quickened spell [b]in an item[/b] is a free action, unless the item description specifically states otherwise. And it doesn't. Now, this, I have no argument with. Retrieving your scroll with the free-action activation time is a move action, barring unusual circumstances. The casting time of the spell - 10 minutes - is the time required to activate the same power in an item. To read a 10 minute spell off a scroll [i]takes 10 minutes[/i]. Unless the item description states otherwise, but it doesn't. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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