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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2594638" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Back to front.</p><p></p><p>If I make the statement "x = 2", it means the variable x has a value of 2.</p><p></p><p>If I make the statement "2 = x", it means the variable x has a value of 2. It doesn't mean that the value of the constant 2 changes to match whatever x is.</p><p></p><p>If I say "The time it takes to walk to work is 30 minutes", or "30 minutes is the time it takes to walk to work", in both cases, it takes me half an hour. I'm explaining something that is unknown (the time it takes) in terms of something that is known (30 minutes).</p><p></p><p>The way you're reading it, I can say that since a/ activating the power 'Enlarge Person' from a potion (an item) is a standard action, therefore the casting time of Enlarge Person is a standard action. I can ignore the fact that the spell text says "Casting Time: one round", and my sorcerer can cast Enlarge Person as a standard action, <em>because potions of Enlarge Person exist</em>.</p><p></p><p>But it's backwards. The activation time is defined by the casting time. We know the casting time of Enlarge Person is one round; therefore the activation time of Enlarge Person is one round, <em>unless the item description specifically states otherwise</em>. The item description of potions does; they take a standard action to activate. The item description of scrolls doesn't; therefore the rule above applies, and the casting time of the spell (one round) is the time required to activate the power from a scroll.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Activating an item is a standard action. <em>However</em>, the <em>casting time</em> of a spell is the time required to activate the same power in an item.</p><p></p><p>If you're duplicating a spell, it's an exception to the standard action rule. The casting time of the spell is the activation time, instead of a standard action being the casting time.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2594638, member: 1656"] Back to front. If I make the statement "x = 2", it means the variable x has a value of 2. If I make the statement "2 = x", it means the variable x has a value of 2. It doesn't mean that the value of the constant 2 changes to match whatever x is. If I say "The time it takes to walk to work is 30 minutes", or "30 minutes is the time it takes to walk to work", in both cases, it takes me half an hour. I'm explaining something that is unknown (the time it takes) in terms of something that is known (30 minutes). The way you're reading it, I can say that since a/ activating the power 'Enlarge Person' from a potion (an item) is a standard action, therefore the casting time of Enlarge Person is a standard action. I can ignore the fact that the spell text says "Casting Time: one round", and my sorcerer can cast Enlarge Person as a standard action, [i]because potions of Enlarge Person exist[/i]. But it's backwards. The activation time is defined by the casting time. We know the casting time of Enlarge Person is one round; therefore the activation time of Enlarge Person is one round, [i]unless the item description specifically states otherwise[/i]. The item description of potions does; they take a standard action to activate. The item description of scrolls doesn't; therefore the rule above applies, and the casting time of the spell (one round) is the time required to activate the power from a scroll. Activating an item is a standard action. [i]However[/i], the [i]casting time[/i] of a spell is the time required to activate the same power in an item. If you're duplicating a spell, it's an exception to the standard action rule. The casting time of the spell is the activation time, instead of a standard action being the casting time. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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