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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7991985" data-attributes="member: 83242">You didn't answer it because you are making an assumption because they are having fun.  I was asking you to ask them directly about what they thought of the min/max play style being ineffective in PF2.  You haven't asked them, you just assumed.  I understand they are having fun, but:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Is that because they can't min/max</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">are they surprised they like the game more because they can't min/max</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">do they miss min/max, but still enjoying playing.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Is it because they are still tying to min/max (i.e. the challenge)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Is in spite of the fact the can't min/max (i.e. it is not as important to them as they thought)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Is it fun because they can't min/max and that has removed a burden,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">etc.</li> </ul>EDIT: I wrote the above before reading your whole post.  It seems you did answer it, though it still sounds as if you are making assumptions and I would rather have their responses after being asked directly.</blockquote>