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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 5463719" data-attributes="member: 3887">I'm shocked <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. I thought by placing the Viking Hat of Dungeon-Mastering upon your head you immediately become a polymath, knowledgeable in all matters animal, vegetable and mineral, including, but not limited to, Gilbert and Sullivan lyrics, much in the manner of a modern Major-General, more than capable of adjudicating, with fairness, accuracy, and suitable entertainment value, whatever actions, however rational, rash, borderline absurd, or wantonly fire-based they might be, your players, bless their febrile little minds, might decide to undertake. Allow me to ask this: how does one figure out what happens, when players do the crazy things they are want to do, considering the enormous breadth of crackpot situations they find themselves in?How exactly does one decide if the players plan to combat a large pool of magically animated water is brilliant or fatally flawed? A knowledge of real-world fluid dynamics won't be much help, seeing as real-word fluids are seldom motivated by animosity or a desire to protect a wizard's property rights. No advice from the realms of fiction spring to mind. Angry water is a bit of a corner case. It's hardly iconic, unlike say, fighting a giant, in which the logical choice of counter-armament is the sling. Personally, I don't mind the skill systems present in 3e and 4e. It's nice to have guidelines for adjudicating of player actions. Some mechanics to fall back on, if you need them. I agree that a reduction of play to pure mechanics represents a loss, or at the very least, a failure to live up to the potential inherent in role-playing games. But does the mere existence of something like the 4e Skill Challenge system, or 3e skill lists, really serve as a barrier to creative play?It sure seems like an implementation issue to me. A DM could choose to resolve everything using die rolls. Of course, they could just as easily choose not do that. It's how my friends and I played 3e (and now play 4e). The newer editions didn't make us less creative. They simply gave us some extra tools with which to run our campaigns.</blockquote>

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