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<blockquote data-quote="Tyrex" data-source="post: 6038120" data-attributes="member: 6701652"><p><strong>Chrome got in the way of 2Ed.</strong></p><p></p><p>The last time I played was with a group of seasoned veterans who like me came up through the ranks of the original boxed sets through 1 Ed and at the time converted to 2 Ed. We had grown up with the game and were well into our second decade of play. This was a time when I also became a player only, not DM.</p><p></p><p>The 2 Ed when it rolled out was nice as it to me provided some clarification on many areas where we had developed house rules. And THAC0 was a nice change. The DM ran a home grown campaign that borrowed from here, fleshed out from there, and in general it was quite fun for about a year, year and a half.</p><p></p><p>And we were all making a decent living at the time, most of us working in IT. Why I mention this is important. It allowed us to buy the new stuff (Options: books, [class] Handbooks, etc.) as soon as it hit the shelf. Then everything seemed to explode: new campaign settings (Birthright, Dark Sun, etc.) and even more outlier products that just muddied the waters. </p><p></p><p>Our sessions were fun at first as we would spend 30-45 minutes talking about the latest product we bought. But eventually it became less about the immersion and more about the product; we as players would reference our Handbooks and what not and the DM soured on 'product overload'. He was a very creative DM and the strength of our group was the interaction we had with his world-arc. We really were focused on the role aspect, and knew the core rules inside and out. Now our DM was adopting a blanket response like 'I'm not familiar with the Firbog as player class, and will need a week to hone up...' I lost interest and left the group. I heard they played on for about another year, and then moved into the PC gaming realm, much the same as I did.</p><p></p><p>Does 3.5 care for this? I'm not sure. But from my personal experiences, the core of 2 Ed made some very nice improvements over 1 Ed. It was the never ending expansion and supplement over-kill that did us in.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tyrex, post: 6038120, member: 6701652"] [b]Chrome got in the way of 2Ed.[/b] The last time I played was with a group of seasoned veterans who like me came up through the ranks of the original boxed sets through 1 Ed and at the time converted to 2 Ed. We had grown up with the game and were well into our second decade of play. This was a time when I also became a player only, not DM. The 2 Ed when it rolled out was nice as it to me provided some clarification on many areas where we had developed house rules. And THAC0 was a nice change. The DM ran a home grown campaign that borrowed from here, fleshed out from there, and in general it was quite fun for about a year, year and a half. And we were all making a decent living at the time, most of us working in IT. Why I mention this is important. It allowed us to buy the new stuff (Options: books, [class] Handbooks, etc.) as soon as it hit the shelf. Then everything seemed to explode: new campaign settings (Birthright, Dark Sun, etc.) and even more outlier products that just muddied the waters. Our sessions were fun at first as we would spend 30-45 minutes talking about the latest product we bought. But eventually it became less about the immersion and more about the product; we as players would reference our Handbooks and what not and the DM soured on 'product overload'. He was a very creative DM and the strength of our group was the interaction we had with his world-arc. We really were focused on the role aspect, and knew the core rules inside and out. Now our DM was adopting a blanket response like 'I'm not familiar with the Firbog as player class, and will need a week to hone up...' I lost interest and left the group. I heard they played on for about another year, and then moved into the PC gaming realm, much the same as I did. Does 3.5 care for this? I'm not sure. But from my personal experiences, the core of 2 Ed made some very nice improvements over 1 Ed. It was the never ending expansion and supplement over-kill that did us in. [/QUOTE]
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