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<blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 6141973" data-attributes="member: 10784"><p>Again, your 2E games differed from mine - it was rare for any warrior class to have an 18 STR, since we rolled 4d6 and kept the best 3. So, 18+ strength was the exception (18 in any ability, for that matter, unless you were a demihuman). I think you also needed ambidexterity to get no penalty to hit in 2E, which is another WP slot. Didn't ambi also have a 16 DEX requirement as well? </p><p></p><p>And, you have:</p><p>One slot for Two Weapon Specialization</p><p>One slot for Ambidexterity</p><p>Two slots for specialization in the longsword</p><p>and, you're done with your first level slots</p><p></p><p>Also, you said could beat a troll in one round, but your example has the fighter beating him in the second round. A 3.5E fighter could technically do the same as well - with the 2 weapon fighting feat and a battle axe and hand axe as weapons. Plus, the same fighter with a 17 STR in 2E is a +1 to hit and damage, but is a +3 to hit & damage in 3.5E. So, fighter hits twice in round 1, doing (8+3)x3 crit modifier + (6+1)x3 damage in round one with two critical hits, so 33+21 damage, or 54 points. In round two the fighter does the same and the 3.5E troll with 63 hit points is dead.</p><p></p><p>And, that is using core rules, not an optional rulebook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewJeffCT, post: 6141973, member: 10784"] Again, your 2E games differed from mine - it was rare for any warrior class to have an 18 STR, since we rolled 4d6 and kept the best 3. So, 18+ strength was the exception (18 in any ability, for that matter, unless you were a demihuman). I think you also needed ambidexterity to get no penalty to hit in 2E, which is another WP slot. Didn't ambi also have a 16 DEX requirement as well? And, you have: One slot for Two Weapon Specialization One slot for Ambidexterity Two slots for specialization in the longsword and, you're done with your first level slots Also, you said could beat a troll in one round, but your example has the fighter beating him in the second round. A 3.5E fighter could technically do the same as well - with the 2 weapon fighting feat and a battle axe and hand axe as weapons. Plus, the same fighter with a 17 STR in 2E is a +1 to hit and damage, but is a +3 to hit & damage in 3.5E. So, fighter hits twice in round 1, doing (8+3)x3 crit modifier + (6+1)x3 damage in round one with two critical hits, so 33+21 damage, or 54 points. In round two the fighter does the same and the 3.5E troll with 63 hit points is dead. And, that is using core rules, not an optional rulebook. [/QUOTE]
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