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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 6142200" data-attributes="member: 10784">According to the the Complete Fighter's Handbook, the best you could do without ambidexterity is to be 0 for your primary weapon and -2 for your offhand weapons - and, that is from devoting 2 WP slots to 2 weapon style - one to get the style, which brings you to -2/-4 and then another to specialize in the style.  If you spend a WP slot to become ambidextrous, then you won't be able to become specialized in the long sword until level 4, as you need 2 WP slots to specialize in a weapon.  The relevant text is below:If you devote a weapon proficiency slot to style specialization with Two-Weapon Style, you get two important benefits. First, your attack penalty drops; before, it was a –2 with your primary weapon and –4 with your secondary, but with Specialization in Two-Weapon Style it becomes 0 with your primary weapon and a –2 with your secondary weapon. (If you're already ambidextrous, as per "Off-Hand Weapons Use," above, that penalty is 0 with primary weapon and 0 with secondary weapon.)and, just to have a chance to land 3 blows against the troll means you're going to have to survive six attacks from the troll, with the claws having a 50-50 chance of killing an average first level fighter, and the bite  having a 75% chance to kill.  (Not sure if it was rules as written, but PCs that had an extra attack in melee always took that extra attack at the end of the round.)  Sure, it can happen, but it's only slightly more possible than a 3.5E fighter rolling four crits in a row (the most I've seen is 5 in a row.)We made all our character creation rolls on the table, as well as our to hit/damage rolls (the DM made his to hit/damage rolls on the table as well).  So, no fudging happened.</blockquote>

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