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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5167296" data-attributes="member: 15538">Of course, one can. In fact, let me make explicit that part of the reason I started this thread is because I thought the DMG passage was interesting from the standpoint of looking at certain nuances.The latter. Although it seems to be within the realm of what he might allow, if jusified, it appears, to me, to be in the category of things he would recommend not doing. That was not my reading. He said overrule the dice any time, and then he went on to describe some circumstances in which it might be helpful. Since he did not suggest changing a to-hit roll, wrote that monsters should get an even break, and suggested changing a PC death into perhaps a severe maiming, I draw two conclusions:1. Gygax did not take an explicit position on fudging a singular die roll in that passage. (I would be curious if he took a stand elsewhere, actually).2. If allowed, it doesn't seem to be a part of what he's recommending.Certainly, we're not going to go there. I just want to clarify that EGG claimed the sovereignty of the GM over the dice, but he did not say, as may have been implied by others, that he endorsed die-roll fudging in combat resolution. I am not pointing a figure at you, but I do get a sense that I am being asked to defend the position of, say, Raven Crowking. I don't consider myself a person of extreme viewpoint. I hold a nuanced position in the fudge-versus-don't-fudge debate, although I stand in the no-fudging camp. Because the AD&D DMG is being held up as a historical authority, I want to explore what it says. By my reading, Gygax also takes a nuanced position, although he suggests some particulars I might be discinclined to do, although I wouldn't rule them out. Specifically, nothing in the DMG I'm reading says to me, "Yes, fudge," by a fairly general understanding of fudging to be, "To alter the outcome of a die result, covertly, primarily and almost purely because the result is disliked." I would say, "No, don't fudge," but I don't read anything in the DMG I categorically disagree with.</blockquote>

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