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<blockquote data-quote="Bryan Vining" data-source="post: 396633" data-attributes="member: 7628">Various reactionsGary... right on!&nbsp; Discussions like these end up much like discussions about whether or not abortion should be legal. whether or not the US should have been in Vietnam, whether or not welfare is a good idea.&nbsp; You'll get a lot of noise, and almost no one (if anyone) will have their minds changed.&nbsp; It IS a matter of taste.&nbsp; There is no one participating in this thread who is not projecting his/her values into the analysis.&nbsp; Such a thing is impossible.&nbsp; Everyone has their biases, and their view of the game systems will be filtered through those.&nbsp; No edition of D&amp;D is better than any other, except for a given group of people at a given time that is a miniscule subset of the universe of D&amp;D players.&nbsp; In any larger scope than that, the question of superior systems is meaningless (not that this discussion hasn't been fun).&nbsp; 3E may fit better with game design theory, but that theory has been formulated by people with opinions and biases of their own.&nbsp; So, it does not exist as an independent standard of excellence handed down by a divine maker.&nbsp; In short, play what you like for whatever reason you like.&nbsp; Just take the time to pick a game that suits you well.&nbsp; Popularity does not equal quality, though something can be both popular and high in quality.&nbsp; Proof of this exists in the fact that both the BeeGees and Steely Dan were very popular bands in the 70s.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Anyway, I do think that questions like this are just not answerable, as the answer is truly personal.&nbsp; However, watching the fur fly during the discussion can be rather entertaining.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bryan Vining, post: 396633, member: 7628"] [b]Various reactions[/b] Gary... right on! Discussions like these end up much like discussions about whether or not abortion should be legal. whether or not the US should have been in Vietnam, whether or not welfare is a good idea. You'll get a lot of noise, and almost no one (if anyone) will have their minds changed. It IS a matter of taste. There is no one participating in this thread who is not projecting his/her values into the analysis. Such a thing is impossible. Everyone has their biases, and their view of the game systems will be filtered through those. No edition of D&D is better than any other, except for a given group of people at a given time that is a miniscule subset of the universe of D&D players. In any larger scope than that, the question of superior systems is meaningless (not that this discussion hasn't been fun). 3E may fit better with game design theory, but that theory has been formulated by people with opinions and biases of their own. So, it does not exist as an independent standard of excellence handed down by a divine maker. In short, play what you like for whatever reason you like. Just take the time to pick a game that suits you well. Popularity does not equal quality, though something can be both popular and high in quality. Proof of this exists in the fact that both the BeeGees and Steely Dan were very popular bands in the 70s. :p Anyway, I do think that questions like this are just not answerable, as the answer is truly personal. However, watching the fur fly during the discussion can be rather entertaining. [/QUOTE]

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