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<blockquote data-quote="GENEWEIGEL" data-source="post: 397314" data-attributes="member: 7710"><p>Whoo Hoo!</p><p></p><p> Alright, some good points were raised here that I've had on the backburner for a while.</p><p></p><p> The complaint about the long stats and then the defense of using the DMG standard NPCs or Jamis Buck's generator.</p><p></p><p> Is it just me or does this need to be resolved for 3e to survive the long run?</p><p></p><p> Seriously, I commented about the poor quality of <em><strong>Enemies and Allies</strong></em> some where else a while back and I got an earful of why people thought the original <em><strong>Rogues Gallery</strong></em> was lame. I'm still not convinced. I think the original <em><strong>Rogues Gallery</strong></em> style is desperately needed for 3rd edition. </p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"> <em><strong>Enemies and Allies</strong></em> could of been done by every single one of us on this messageboard without any problem. </span></p><p></p><p> A <em><strong>Rogues Gallery</strong></em> would of been quite a task to compile all the stats in a spectrum of typicals in an easy reference format.</p><p></p><p> I think a redo of that kind of book is needed to have all the data ready for a quick throw in.</p><p></p><p> And afterwards incorporate it into a DM's screen "companion".</p><p></p><p> I don't want another earful on how someone thought the <em><strong>Rogues Gallery</strong></em> wasn't useful for their "storytime" campaign either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p> I know! I know! Violence is bad! It's bad! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p> If anyone else has any other angles of complaints about that idea it's welcomed but let's not make this a pot-AE-to/pot-AH-to mish mosh again.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And I'm not talking about the crappy 2e <em><strong>Rogues Gallery</strong></em> either! </p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GENEWEIGEL, post: 397314, member: 7710"] Whoo Hoo! Alright, some good points were raised here that I've had on the backburner for a while. The complaint about the long stats and then the defense of using the DMG standard NPCs or Jamis Buck's generator. Is it just me or does this need to be resolved for 3e to survive the long run? Seriously, I commented about the poor quality of [i][b]Enemies and Allies[/b][/i] some where else a while back and I got an earful of why people thought the original [i][b]Rogues Gallery[/b][/i] was lame. I'm still not convinced. I think the original [i][b]Rogues Gallery[/b][/i] style is desperately needed for 3rd edition. [SIZE=8] [i][b]Enemies and Allies[/b][/i] could of been done by every single one of us on this messageboard without any problem. [/SIZE] A [i][b]Rogues Gallery[/b][/i] would of been quite a task to compile all the stats in a spectrum of typicals in an easy reference format. I think a redo of that kind of book is needed to have all the data ready for a quick throw in. And afterwards incorporate it into a DM's screen "companion". I don't want another earful on how someone thought the [i][b]Rogues Gallery[/b][/i] wasn't useful for their "storytime" campaign either. ;) I know! I know! Violence is bad! It's bad! ;) If anyone else has any other angles of complaints about that idea it's welcomed but let's not make this a pot-AE-to/pot-AH-to mish mosh again. ;) And I'm not talking about the crappy 2e [i][b]Rogues Gallery[/b][/i] either! ;) [/QUOTE]
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