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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 402436" data-attributes="member: 78"><p>In 1e you could often get another +2 or more by using a weapon with good armor penetration bonuses like a 2 handed sword or flail. That makes up for a bit the difference. Also, ACs are no longer capped at -12 or -10, so at higher levels and with more focus on defense, ACs can get high enough to cause trouble for high level people. </p><p></p><p>However, I don't see what you're refering to when you talk about increased hit probabilities. Is that 10% increase a fundamental change? And the monsters hit much more now, and everyone generally has some more HP. It is going to work pretty much the same in most cases.</p><p></p><p>You can respect Mr. Gygax for inventing the AD&D without playing it. Just because someone invents something, doesn't mean it can't be improved, and it can be improved without degrading the creator. I doubt anyone wants to use Wright Flyers for mass air travel, but that doesn't mean that the airplane isn't an amazing a invention and that the Wright brothers weren't pretty dang smart for making it. But once something becomes public after someone creates it, anyone can work on improving it. You say: "A rejection of respect for all the years of work that went into AD&D is a rejection of the thoughtfulness that went into the game." However, isn't a rejection of 3e based mostly on nostalgia a rejection of the thoughtfulness and years of work that went into it as well.</p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, you can effectively get the 3e rules free via the OGL and SRD. Now that's cheap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victim, post: 402436, member: 78"] In 1e you could often get another +2 or more by using a weapon with good armor penetration bonuses like a 2 handed sword or flail. That makes up for a bit the difference. Also, ACs are no longer capped at -12 or -10, so at higher levels and with more focus on defense, ACs can get high enough to cause trouble for high level people. However, I don't see what you're refering to when you talk about increased hit probabilities. Is that 10% increase a fundamental change? And the monsters hit much more now, and everyone generally has some more HP. It is going to work pretty much the same in most cases. You can respect Mr. Gygax for inventing the AD&D without playing it. Just because someone invents something, doesn't mean it can't be improved, and it can be improved without degrading the creator. I doubt anyone wants to use Wright Flyers for mass air travel, but that doesn't mean that the airplane isn't an amazing a invention and that the Wright brothers weren't pretty dang smart for making it. But once something becomes public after someone creates it, anyone can work on improving it. You say: "A rejection of respect for all the years of work that went into AD&D is a rejection of the thoughtfulness that went into the game." However, isn't a rejection of 3e based mostly on nostalgia a rejection of the thoughtfulness and years of work that went into it as well. EDIT: Oh yeah, you can effectively get the 3e rules free via the OGL and SRD. Now that's cheap. [/QUOTE]
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