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<blockquote data-quote="D'karr" data-source="post: 405154" data-attributes="member: 336">The lack of rudeness police has been notified and are on their way...&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Gene,&nbsp; I believe that the problem with that approach is that it is not financially viable.Particularly if everything you are suggesting can be accomplished with the current ruleset.Business is business and unless there is a financial incentive for WotC there will not be a 'lite' system ever produced by them.&nbsp; Maybe somebody else (not WotC) might do something like this.I would like to see an introductory game that addresses many of the concerns that many have stated here.&nbsp; But I'm not the target market for a system like this since I've already spent my money on the full &quot;advanced&quot; system (3E).For example, I started playing D&amp;D with the original D&amp;D rules in late 1978.&nbsp; When I purchased the AD&amp;D ruleset in mid 1980 I stopped purchasing anything for the original D&amp;D rules, even though they came out with the companion and master sets.&nbsp; The only thing that I continued to buy was some select adventures which I converted to AD&amp;D.I believe that is true of many people.&nbsp; I imagine that WotC has detailed data that might corroborate this.So why would they fragment their current and future customer base (a mistake TSR made)?&nbsp; There doesn't seem to be any real good reason to do so.If WotC developed a lite system that had all the trappings of 3E but in a smaller (condensed) setting&nbsp; (4 basic classes, limited spells, limited advancement, limited skills and feats) and then they marketed it to a different market than its current customer base it might work.&nbsp; However, that is a huge gamble.&nbsp; Specially if they have data that shows that it won't be as profitable as we think.I doubt a substantial amount of current customers would switch to the lite system or even purchase it, since it is essentially the same thing as 3e.If they would have done this (develop 3e Lite) before and now they were publishing the full 3E version, then it might have worked.I guess the genie is out of the bottle and nothing is going to change that.&nbsp; They can't undo the fact that they have sold a large amount of 3e and unless they market to completely new people a lite system won't sell.That is neither here nor there.&nbsp; This thread was about 3E and 1E and I have no idea why the lite system keeps cropping up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="D'karr, post: 405154, member: 336"] The lack of rudeness police has been notified and are on their way... ;) Gene, I believe that the problem with that approach is that it is not financially viable. Particularly if everything you are suggesting can be accomplished with the current ruleset. Business is business and unless there is a financial incentive for WotC there will not be a 'lite' system ever produced by [b]them[/b]. Maybe somebody else (not WotC) might do something like this. I would like to see an introductory game that addresses many of the concerns that many have stated here. But I'm not the target market for a system like this since I've already spent my money on the full "advanced" system (3E). For example, I started playing D&D with the original D&D rules in late 1978. When I purchased the AD&D ruleset in mid 1980 I stopped purchasing anything for the original D&D rules, even though they came out with the companion and master sets. The only thing that I continued to buy was some select adventures which I converted to AD&D. I believe that is true of many people. I imagine that WotC has detailed data that might corroborate this. So why would they fragment their current and future customer base (a mistake TSR made)? There doesn't seem to be any real good reason to do so. If WotC developed a lite system that had all the trappings of 3E but in a smaller (condensed) setting (4 basic classes, limited spells, limited advancement, limited skills and feats) and then they marketed it to a different market than its [b]current customer base[/b] it might work. However, that is a huge gamble. Specially if they have data that shows that it won't be as profitable as we think. I doubt a substantial amount of current customers would switch to the lite system or even purchase it, since it is essentially the same thing as 3e. If they would have done this (develop 3e Lite) before and now they were publishing the full 3E version, then it might have worked. I guess the genie is out of the bottle and nothing is going to change that. They can't undo the fact that they have sold a large amount of 3e and unless they market to completely new people a lite system won't sell. That is neither here nor there. This thread was about 3E and 1E and I have no idea why the lite system keeps cropping up. [/QUOTE]

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