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[AD&D Gamebook] The Sorcerer's Crown (Kingdom of Sorcery, book 2 of 3)
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<blockquote data-quote="Joshua Randall" data-source="post: 9577752" data-attributes="member: 7737"><p><strong>Commentary</strong>:</p><p></p><p>Dalris is using Charm (Person or) Mammal to control the manticore. According to the 1e AD&D Players Handbook (pp. 55-56), this 1st-level (!) spell "affects all mammalian animals and persons." It does allow a saving throw, but it's still a ridiculously powerful and broadly applicable spell for 1st level.</p><p></p><p>A manticore seems mammalian from its description, and indeed its writeup tells us that manticores mate for life, the male remains with the female during gestation, and she bears one or two cubs. So the manticore has all the earmarks of a mammal and thus is a valid target for Dalris's spell. </p><p></p><p>(One could debate whether a manticore is an <em>animal</em>, a debate that certainly must have happened numerous times in those glorious AD&D rules argument years.)</p><p></p><p>On a failed save, the charmed creature regards the caster in the most favorable light possible, although it won't obey suicidal commands. The charmed creature doesn't get a new save until an amount of time has passed based on its Intelligence score (for the Low Intelligence manticore, this will be 1-2 months!) or if the druid "harms or attempts to harm the charmed creature by some overt action."</p><p></p><p>Somehow Carr's "sudden movement" caused the manticore to startle and break free of the spell. In fairness, "Dalris's ally moves into flanking position" seems to count as Dalris's attempt to harm the manticore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joshua Randall, post: 9577752, member: 7737"] [B]Commentary[/B]: Dalris is using Charm (Person or) Mammal to control the manticore. According to the 1e AD&D Players Handbook (pp. 55-56), this 1st-level (!) spell "affects all mammalian animals and persons." It does allow a saving throw, but it's still a ridiculously powerful and broadly applicable spell for 1st level. A manticore seems mammalian from its description, and indeed its writeup tells us that manticores mate for life, the male remains with the female during gestation, and she bears one or two cubs. So the manticore has all the earmarks of a mammal and thus is a valid target for Dalris's spell. (One could debate whether a manticore is an [I]animal[/I], a debate that certainly must have happened numerous times in those glorious AD&D rules argument years.) On a failed save, the charmed creature regards the caster in the most favorable light possible, although it won't obey suicidal commands. The charmed creature doesn't get a new save until an amount of time has passed based on its Intelligence score (for the Low Intelligence manticore, this will be 1-2 months!) or if the druid "harms or attempts to harm the charmed creature by some overt action." Somehow Carr's "sudden movement" caused the manticore to startle and break free of the spell. In fairness, "Dalris's ally moves into flanking position" seems to count as Dalris's attempt to harm the manticore. [/QUOTE]
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