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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 5155897" data-attributes="member: 12460"><p>So the other day I was playing DDO and chatting with some of my fellow players there and the topic of spells in 2nd edition came up. Someone claimed that a spell cast by a 20th-level magic-user was the same as a spell cast by a 1st-level magic-user. Well I knew this was untrue, but it turned out he was oversimplifying based on the fact that saving throws, unlike in 3e onward, were based solely on the individual making the saving throw. Hence, his point was that any spell that allowed a saving throw was just as difficult to avoid whether cast by a 1st-level magic-user or a 20th-level magic-user. Now obviously there is more to it than that, so I started giving examples of ways in which a 20th-level magic-user was superior. One of my examples was magic resistance, that it scaled by magic-user power and that the % chance of spell failure for magic resistance was based on an 11th-level magic-user. Another player piped up that in 2nd edition, this was not the case, and that magic resistance % was static no matter what level magic-user you were. Well I knew that couldn't be right but I didn't have my AD&D books handy. Another player did have his books handy and said he couldn't find anything in the 2nd edition books about magic resistance changing based on the magic-user level.</p><p></p><p>Well, I found the reference in my 1e AD&D DMG later on. But I couldn't find anything in 2e. Was there any such reference? I seem to recall a lot of things being "accidentally" left out of 2e, and I am wondering if this is one of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 5155897, member: 12460"] So the other day I was playing DDO and chatting with some of my fellow players there and the topic of spells in 2nd edition came up. Someone claimed that a spell cast by a 20th-level magic-user was the same as a spell cast by a 1st-level magic-user. Well I knew this was untrue, but it turned out he was oversimplifying based on the fact that saving throws, unlike in 3e onward, were based solely on the individual making the saving throw. Hence, his point was that any spell that allowed a saving throw was just as difficult to avoid whether cast by a 1st-level magic-user or a 20th-level magic-user. Now obviously there is more to it than that, so I started giving examples of ways in which a 20th-level magic-user was superior. One of my examples was magic resistance, that it scaled by magic-user power and that the % chance of spell failure for magic resistance was based on an 11th-level magic-user. Another player piped up that in 2nd edition, this was not the case, and that magic resistance % was static no matter what level magic-user you were. Well I knew that couldn't be right but I didn't have my AD&D books handy. Another player did have his books handy and said he couldn't find anything in the 2nd edition books about magic resistance changing based on the magic-user level. Well, I found the reference in my 1e AD&D DMG later on. But I couldn't find anything in 2e. Was there any such reference? I seem to recall a lot of things being "accidentally" left out of 2e, and I am wondering if this is one of them. [/QUOTE]
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