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<blockquote data-quote="WheresMyD20" data-source="post: 6927376" data-attributes="member: 60772">Part of what we did was political/kingdom stuff, part of it was extra-planar adventuring.&nbsp; The campaign was heavy on demons and devils, but we only had one fight against an arch-devil and none against a demon lord.&nbsp; We ran into Geryon on his home plane, got beaten badly, and had to flee.&nbsp; We had six 20+ level characters, but Geryon had quite a few other devils backing him up.&nbsp; We were overwhelmed.&nbsp; A party at that level can take down one of almost anything pretty easily, but is still challenged if they're outnumbered.&nbsp; I remember fighting a dozen beholders in their lair and it was a real challenge.Extra-planar adventuring works well with 20+ level characters.&nbsp; Traveling across planes weakens magic items, so it's a convenient built-in way of limiting magic items at high levels.&nbsp; We actually had to start acquiring magic items native to other planes to try to offset this.&nbsp; It was kind of like a soft reset on magic items.&nbsp; We ended up trying to build collections of Hell gear, Abyss gear, etc.&nbsp; Some spells don't work as well or at all on other planes.&nbsp; Clerics may not be able to recover their mid-to-high level spells on some planes.&nbsp; Enemies on other planes tend to be tougher than the ones on the prime plane.Fights were apocalyptic with lots of magic getting thrown around.&nbsp; It was common to have to make at least one saving throw a round, sometimes more.&nbsp; Saving throws were really easy to make, though.&nbsp; High level magic-user and cleric spells that did not allow a saving throw were very valuable.&nbsp; Dispel magic was cast a lot in order to take down magical defenses and suppress magic items.&nbsp; Fighters were vital since a lot of enemies had both magic resistance and great saving throws.&nbsp; Often times the best strategy for magic-users and clerics was to cast spells to buff the fighters while they did the attacking.Death was actually pretty common, but not too problematic.&nbsp; It was really only a problem if a character died on another plane and the party had to flee the plane before he can get raised, or if the character's soul got imprisoned by a demon, devil, or other powerful creature/spellcaster.&nbsp; It was less common to permanently lose a character, but it did happen a few times.I think the Elric saga is sort of how our 20+ level game of 1e AD&amp;D looked.&nbsp; Lots of planar travel, dealing with god-like beings, lots of demons &amp; devils, and getting embroiled in a cosmic struggle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WheresMyD20, post: 6927376, member: 60772"] Part of what we did was political/kingdom stuff, part of it was extra-planar adventuring. The campaign was heavy on demons and devils, but we only had one fight against an arch-devil and none against a demon lord. We ran into Geryon on his home plane, got beaten badly, and had to flee. We had six 20+ level characters, but Geryon had quite a few other devils backing him up. We were overwhelmed. A party at that level can take down one of almost anything pretty easily, but is still challenged if they're outnumbered. I remember fighting a dozen beholders in their lair and it was a real challenge. Extra-planar adventuring works well with 20+ level characters. Traveling across planes weakens magic items, so it's a convenient built-in way of limiting magic items at high levels. We actually had to start acquiring magic items native to other planes to try to offset this. It was kind of like a soft reset on magic items. We ended up trying to build collections of Hell gear, Abyss gear, etc. Some spells don't work as well or at all on other planes. Clerics may not be able to recover their mid-to-high level spells on some planes. Enemies on other planes tend to be tougher than the ones on the prime plane. Fights were apocalyptic with lots of magic getting thrown around. It was common to have to make at least one saving throw a round, sometimes more. Saving throws were really easy to make, though. High level magic-user and cleric spells that did not allow a saving throw were very valuable. Dispel magic was cast a lot in order to take down magical defenses and suppress magic items. Fighters were vital since a lot of enemies had both magic resistance and great saving throws. Often times the best strategy for magic-users and clerics was to cast spells to buff the fighters while they did the attacking. Death was actually pretty common, but not too problematic. It was really only a problem if a character died on another plane and the party had to flee the plane before he can get raised, or if the character's soul got imprisoned by a demon, devil, or other powerful creature/spellcaster. It was less common to permanently lose a character, but it did happen a few times. I think the Elric saga is sort of how our 20+ level game of 1e AD&D looked. Lots of planar travel, dealing with god-like beings, lots of demons & devils, and getting embroiled in a cosmic struggle. [/QUOTE]

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