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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 8696147" data-attributes="member: 6688049">Well, I admit that the B/X and BECMI boxed sets are hybrid products: mostly rules, but also featuring the KW campaign setting (esp. the Expert boxes, but also setting info in all of them, such as Masters Set world map). So it’s a borderline call. I agree they are not exactly the same product category as the typical 1990s TSR campaign setting boxed sets. But on the other hand, they contained more setting info (e.g. world map) than, say, the GH bits in the OD&D, 1e, and 3e rulebooks. And for 6 years (from 1981 to 1987 when GAZ1 came out) those boxed sets were the only source for the KW campaign setting, other than adventure modules.My point is that lining up a few key boxed sets and core books and calling that a “campaign setting” is a bit confusing, and “unfair “ to certain settings (eg missing GH Folio data, original RL module, DL War of the Lance modules, and Mystara’s various GAZes and split up boxed sets).Because “campaign setting” has two meanings. Ben is using it in the sense of a few select “core products”. Okay, but the term can also encompass all products which featured that brand or which were tied into that world’s continuity.Anyway, I’m glad for Bens research—I’m just saying that comparing a few narrowly defined “campaign settings” (i.e. core setting boxes/books) is just a start. The tip of the iceberg. Looking forward to more comprehensive, synthesized, and nuanced charts!And yes, references to Greyhawk IP in OD&D, 1e, and 3e rulebooks do count as “consumer impressions”—that’s a nuanced metric i would like to see. Because the residual “consumer impressions” can be (and ought to be) tapped into for furture Wizards marketing. When those impressions (rather than just abstract sales categories) are taken into account, this leads to the recent 5e appearances of Warduke and the Kids from the Cartoon Show, and the “red box” 4e Starter Set. And Spelljammer.</blockquote>

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