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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5548963" data-attributes="member: 15538">AD&amp;D doesn't say that. First of all, it implies fighters are often petit members of the aristocracy, maybe younger sons, and hence they have done things other than train in combat all their lives. Second, Fighter only defines certain class abilities, not a character's whole identity. Third, AD&amp;D definitely had suggestions for making rulings on the fly, including climbing. Climbing walls was something the DMG asked the DM to handle.Also, I've never gamed with your 3.5 DM. If a fighter in full gear with no Climb skill insisted in trying the climb, I would definitely look it up. The thought, &quot;But if I don't do something, he's going to get killed and it will ruin my story,&quot; would never even occur to me. There is no Right to be Stupid written in the 3e PHB. But the climb might be possible. And DC 12 is not low enough to guarantee success; Str bonus - armor check penalty is going to be pretty harsh. And the actual DC for climbing a braced rope turns out to be 5. What you're describing really sounds more like Castles &amp; Crusades than AD&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 5548963, member: 15538"] AD&D doesn't say that. First of all, it implies fighters are often petit members of the aristocracy, maybe younger sons, and hence they have done things other than train in combat all their lives. Second, Fighter only defines certain class abilities, not a character's whole identity. Third, AD&D definitely had suggestions for making rulings on the fly, including climbing. Climbing walls was something the DMG asked the DM to handle. Also, I've never gamed with your 3.5 DM. If a fighter in full gear with no Climb skill insisted in trying the climb, I would definitely look it up. The thought, "But if I don't do something, he's going to get killed and it will ruin my story," would never even occur to me. There is no Right to be Stupid written in the 3e PHB. But the climb might be possible. And DC 12 is not low enough to guarantee success; Str bonus - armor check penalty is going to be pretty harsh. And the actual DC for climbing a braced rope turns out to be 5. What you're describing really sounds more like Castles & Crusades than AD&D. [/QUOTE]

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