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<blockquote data-quote="thedungeondelver" data-source="post: 5551699" data-attributes="member: 34865"><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Tsk tsk! Here and I thought your first post was spot on, lumen.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">But it seems you're missing a key quote from the <strong>DUNGEON MASTERS GUIDE</strong>, to wit:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Never hold to the letter written, never let someone else (you, to me, for example) try and force their interpretation of the rules if it goes against the obvious intent of the game. Major systems - not all - uniformity in general, not specifically. You (me, you, everyone else) are <em>final arbiter</em>: not the rules.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Want something concrete?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">It's up to the DM, not the rules. An individual: not specific classes.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Oh! Before I forget, earlier in the thread you said that rigidly there were only a few classes that could "handle" animals. What about magic-users and familiars? What about elves and griffons (per the <strong>MONSTER MANUAL</strong>)? Especially elves and griffons: no rules are given, it's just said that they can use griffons as mounts. What about aquatic elves and dolphins? What about Drow and their affinity to spiders? Surely dragons can be tamed. There are rules for taking their eggs to sell: someone's buying them and it isn't someone craving a gigantic omelet. How about someone buying blink dog pups? You can purchase war dogs, too (something I intend to do in a current game), there's no rules for handling dogs for any class - I guess the DM will have to <em>make it up</em>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Now, I don't give a fig for 1e/3e comparisons, I can only go by what I've seen in the numerous games I've played over the years. But I've got a rack of examples up there that sorta kinda point out some problems with your argument.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">O snap! Arisoto with another great example - characters climbing up after the ill-fated gnome in the <strong>DUNGEON MASTERS GUIDE</strong> play example!</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thedungeondelver, post: 5551699, member: 34865"] [FONT=century gothic] Tsk tsk! Here and I thought your first post was spot on, lumen. But it seems you're missing a key quote from the [B]DUNGEON MASTERS GUIDE[/B], to wit: Never hold to the letter written, never let someone else (you, to me, for example) try and force their interpretation of the rules if it goes against the obvious intent of the game. Major systems - not all - uniformity in general, not specifically. You (me, you, everyone else) are [I]final arbiter[/I]: not the rules. Want something concrete? It's up to the DM, not the rules. An individual: not specific classes. Oh! Before I forget, earlier in the thread you said that rigidly there were only a few classes that could "handle" animals. What about magic-users and familiars? What about elves and griffons (per the [B]MONSTER MANUAL[/B])? Especially elves and griffons: no rules are given, it's just said that they can use griffons as mounts. What about aquatic elves and dolphins? What about Drow and their affinity to spiders? Surely dragons can be tamed. There are rules for taking their eggs to sell: someone's buying them and it isn't someone craving a gigantic omelet. How about someone buying blink dog pups? You can purchase war dogs, too (something I intend to do in a current game), there's no rules for handling dogs for any class - I guess the DM will have to [I]make it up[/I]. Now, I don't give a fig for 1e/3e comparisons, I can only go by what I've seen in the numerous games I've played over the years. But I've got a rack of examples up there that sorta kinda point out some problems with your argument. O snap! Arisoto with another great example - characters climbing up after the ill-fated gnome in the [b]DUNGEON MASTERS GUIDE[/b] play example! [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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