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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 1501532" data-attributes="member: 1210">One thing to keep in mind about converting 1/2e to 3e is that the levels don't really mean the same things.&nbsp; For instance, in 1e or 2e, you hardly ever saw mega-high level pcs.&nbsp; TSR's modules tended to top out at about the 12th-16th level range.&nbsp; I just ran Return to the Tomb of Horrors- the aforementioned high-level 2e spread of 12-16 was recommended.* Yet in 3e, some of the key monsters (winter-wight, demilich) are CR 23-29!&nbsp; Clearly, a 12th-16th level pc in 2ed or 1ed was the equivalent of an epic 3e character.&nbsp; The spread's different.&nbsp; So when you convert, say, G1 with all its giants (orignally for 8-12) figure it's more like for 12th-15th; a ton of hill giants is rough.Just my observation- if you're interested, I can post some of my RttToH notes.&nbsp; If you have the original you can compare what I did with the various bad guys and stuff.*Yes, I am a very mean dm.&nbsp; And yes, I ran this in my regular campaign- it's the Felenga story hour thread linked in my sig, if you're interested.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 1501532, member: 1210"] One thing to keep in mind about converting 1/2e to 3e is that the levels don't really mean the same things. For instance, in 1e or 2e, you hardly ever saw mega-high level pcs. TSR's modules tended to top out at about the 12th-16th level range. I just ran [i]Return to the Tomb of Horrors[/i]- the aforementioned high-level 2e spread of 12-16 was recommended.* Yet in 3e, some of the key monsters (winter-wight, demilich) are CR 23-29! Clearly, a 12th-16th level pc in 2ed or 1ed was the equivalent of an epic 3e character. The spread's different. So when you convert, say, G1 with all its giants (orignally for 8-12) figure it's more like for 12th-15th; a ton of hill giants is [i]rough.[/i] Just my observation- if you're interested, I can post some of my RttToH notes. If you have the original you can compare what I did with the various bad guys and stuff. *Yes, I am a very mean dm. And yes, I ran this in my regular campaign- it's the Felenga story hour thread linked in my sig, if you're interested. [/QUOTE]

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