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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8261323" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>Really? Always played with only one additional attack save for the "exceptions" like the drows. Encounters with drows were scary as encounters with them almost always had a priestess and a wizard. A 5th level wizard with a 5rh level priestess could boost their cohort. Bless, Prayer and chant with haste was quite a deadly combo with the drows' two weapon fighting capacity. Mid to high level drows were especially dangerous as some potions of growth could also be used. With drows having a minimum of +1 weapons and gears, they were able to push way over their levels when properly boosted. With their magic resistance, a dispel to remove their magical boosting powers was not a sure thing either...</p><p></p><p>To put it this way, giving that kind of power to players was, to say the least, a straight lead to a very very unbalanced game.</p><p></p><p>The lowest drow warrior was, once boosted and if my memory is correct 2nd level, would have thaco 19, +4 to hit and damage and would get 4 attacks per round. So a single drow would remove the shield benefit to AC of a fighter with a large magical shield leaving him with only a +3 plate mail (in average and to be generous with the PC) for an AC of 0. Add two more drows and this meant that our fighter would be hit at least once per attacking drow loosing again on average 9hp per connecting attacks or a total if 18hp per round. That is only for three boosted drows. The wizard would boost two more, maybe even himself and this one would have even better chances to hit. </p><p></p><p>So giving that kind of power to the players was out of the question in my head as it would have been very unbalanced. For me and a few others, that article was not to be used. Too unbalanced, especially since a lot of people were ignoring , willingly or not, the aging effect of haste...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8261323, member: 6855114"] Really? Always played with only one additional attack save for the "exceptions" like the drows. Encounters with drows were scary as encounters with them almost always had a priestess and a wizard. A 5th level wizard with a 5rh level priestess could boost their cohort. Bless, Prayer and chant with haste was quite a deadly combo with the drows' two weapon fighting capacity. Mid to high level drows were especially dangerous as some potions of growth could also be used. With drows having a minimum of +1 weapons and gears, they were able to push way over their levels when properly boosted. With their magic resistance, a dispel to remove their magical boosting powers was not a sure thing either... To put it this way, giving that kind of power to players was, to say the least, a straight lead to a very very unbalanced game. The lowest drow warrior was, once boosted and if my memory is correct 2nd level, would have thaco 19, +4 to hit and damage and would get 4 attacks per round. So a single drow would remove the shield benefit to AC of a fighter with a large magical shield leaving him with only a +3 plate mail (in average and to be generous with the PC) for an AC of 0. Add two more drows and this meant that our fighter would be hit at least once per attacking drow loosing again on average 9hp per connecting attacks or a total if 18hp per round. That is only for three boosted drows. The wizard would boost two more, maybe even himself and this one would have even better chances to hit. So giving that kind of power to the players was out of the question in my head as it would have been very unbalanced. For me and a few others, that article was not to be used. Too unbalanced, especially since a lot of people were ignoring , willingly or not, the aging effect of haste... [/QUOTE]
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