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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5703233" data-attributes="member: 4348">There was more hatred of 3e then anything you've ever seen with the 3.X vs. 4e thingy.  I saw things so vile spat between gamers on forums, and even worse in real life over what WotC did with 3e then anything I've seen since.  People ended friendships, banned people from their homes, and other things all over 3e.  It was pretty nasty.  Now days those who felt that bad about 3e normally don't even mention their RPG days to the RPGers these days, which I find ironic.  Some have healed half broken fences, others won't allow you to speak about TETSNBN in their prescence.Much of this entire Retrogaming scene had it's roots born in the anti-3e crowd before being retro was even popular.You won't find most of them here, they skipped town and don't even frequent the same places as the 3.X or even the 4e crowd normally.  4e did garner a few of those 3.X haters however.3e did appeal to many that had left D&D over the years because they didn't like the system...in fact it got millions to come back to try D&D again.At the same time it drove off many who played AD&D...not that they were buying anything, most were happy with books that were already over a decade old at that point.Most seem to forget the dire hatred for 3e that spawned.  Didn't help that TSR/WotC was working with Blizzard at the time and actually had Diablo supplements to both AD&D and 3e.  In fact it sort of supported the idea of Diablo inspiring much of what came to be in 3e.Not that it much matters anyways, as I said, most of those that didn't like 3e aren't here, and don't frequent any of the same areas as the new gen people do (new gen being 3.X and beyond).So, I think your suspicions are correct in that there were more 3e haters over it's timespan then there are against 4e (though some of the 4e hate also came from those who got burned with 3e then 3.5 and couldn't believe yet another edition was coming out so drastically different so soon).  However, I don't think you'll find those people here.ENWorld has not traditionally been kind to the AD&D lover.  I'd suggest Dragonsfoot but 3e talk (or TETSNBN) is sort of kind of banned there.  There are other places to go as well, lesser known to 3e lovers, but not certain you'd get a warm welcome there either if you mention anything dealing with 3e.It's kind of a taboo subject these days I think.On the topic of edition wars however...I recently played the 4th edition of Axis and Allies, otherwise known as Axis and allies Anniversary edition.  At least I think that's the 4th edition...has nothing to do with D&D though.</blockquote>

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