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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5708450" data-attributes="member: 4348">I don't recall that actually.  I recall there was very little bad blood when 3e initially came out, but within a year 3e had a mass exodus and edition wars beyond ANYTHING I've ever seen with 3e. vs. 4e. It's funny how much people have forgotten or how they view it through rose tinted glasses.  I only assume it's because most of those stating this were 3e fans and not the 3e haters.There was so much hatred and vile around, entire websites devoted against the 3e movement...or more appropriately to preserving the AD&D roots...sprang up with MUCH more popularity than anything that's sprung up from the 3e movement.Dragonsfoot was just one of the sites (but perhaps the best known) that came about.3e seemed to attract those who hated AD&D all along, and drove off those who loved AD&D to begin with...aka...a switch of hands.  The rolemaster kids finally won and changed AD&D to...whatever game it was and called it D&D instead.I know people that still feel so betrayed by WotC and the 3.X series of games, that even stating those terms in their presence is an offense.  I haven't met anyone like that in relation to 4e, there are those who say 4e is terrible and one should play 3.X or Pathfinder...but none who will drive you off at gunpoint...at least I haven't met them yet.The change over to 4e was more like the betrayal many felt at the release of 3.5...or at least what some stated they felt it was a betrayal of.  I'd probably put it a notch higher than that anger many felt...but nothing in relation to what the AD&D crowds felt in relation to 3e...at least in my neck of the woods.Sure, 3e was relatively smooth at original release, but volatile afterwards.  I think in some ways the angry reaction was partially what resulted in 3.5 overall.  The statement of how broken 3e was and what was so terrible about it by the haters made a hasty release of a "revised" edition (that overall wasn't that much better as far as they were concerned anyways, and tended to make others who loved 3e angry at the revision).I mean, it was BAD on the boards...and it didn't really die down for a while.  You still had malcontents still posting when 4e was announced!However, from a business perspective, 3e was a GREAT move.  The numbers who didn't like or moved away from AD&D because they felt it was flawed appeared to be far greater than those who appeared to be playing AD&D (or at least buying rpg items...) so making a system to draw those people in to play would be far more valuable then continuing the present game.  It worked and it sold like hotcakes on an early spring morning.3.5 wasn't exactly the best thing in my opinion, but it kept up sales.  It was an attempt to assuage bad feelings and show that yes...WotC was listening and would adjust things.  It went over about as well as a tornado drill...some actually loved it, others just got angry...and those already angry didn't really change their opinions.4e...I think much of the 4e love actually came from those who were venting right back at the 3.X crowd.  They were saying...HA...how does it feel to get yours finally.  Some of it were those who genuinely tired of 3e or looking for the next best thing, but I think some of the 4e love that drove 3e players crazy was simply a continuation of the AD&D/3.X spat continuing on.Anyways, why are we even talking about this junk, it's already apparant that in the long run 3.X won that little war, so why not let bygones be bygones.</blockquote>

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