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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 8553159" data-attributes="member: 32740">Again, that's not quite right/clear.  Initiative in 1E is side vs. side.  Each side rolls 1d6.  Side with higher roll goes first (because reading the initiative dice is "backwards" - where the higher roll YOUR side makes is indicative of the later segment in which the opponents get to attack, not when your side attacks on the earlier segment indicated by the opponent's roll).  If the winning side have multiple attacks then they begin by taking all their FIRST attacks, then the opposing side takes their first attacks, and back and forth until all multiple attacks are resolved.  In particular, for 1-on-1 matchups different procedures are given, essentially resolving three general modes of attack - melee, missiles, and spells - by particular procedures for each combination.  For melee vs. melee, you DON'T use WSF at all unless the d6 rolls are first tied, then WSF of the weapon is used to determine who goes first - and multiple attacks are still then mostly back and forth.  And then there's a big chunk of complication for what to do with timing when one side has a LOT more attacks than the opponent, getting multiple hits in before the opponents get their first/only one.Then there's the rule of having melee weapons with significantly mis-matched WSF.  That rule DOESN'T give anyone free/bonus attacks - it is still ONLY about timing of attacks you already have.  In those cases it is simply permitting a significantly faster weapon to take more than one attack - if they have multiple attacks to take - before the opponent even gets their first.  When both sides, for example, still only have one attack each, then that rule has no effect - the die rolls are initially tied in order to even bring WSF into consideration, and the faster weapon attacks first - but then that's all, because there aren't then additional attacks whose timing needs to be determined.  It only changes the timing, and that's only when multiple attacks are even possessed by one side or the other, and ALL THAT only when the initiative die rolls are already tied.But yes, charging disregards die rolls and wsf and all that and instead compares weapon LENGTH to determine which opponent attacks first.All this and more is what makes BTB, detailed 1E combat so easily misinterpreted, or possible to interpret in multiple ways, and generally as obfuscatory as possible - and one of the very good reasons that so many people just disregard weapon speeds in 1E.</blockquote>

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