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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Genghis Don" data-source="post: 9686811" data-attributes="member: 7037942">initiative is rolled every round, but there is a misunderstanding about evasion (also, no one understands 1e initiative, but it need not be a big deal, high roller goes first, attacks generally landing on the die of the other side)Evasion only requires initiative to be won if the character is in MELEE combat. It's fine going first or last vs (most) ranged weapons & some ranged spells/special attacks. Unsaid, but logically following, if a character was simply "defending", and not seeking to make their own attacks, even melee attacks could be rolled vs regardless of initiative. This isn't really the spirit of AD&D though (see parry in the PH for a laugh). As a poster noted, a weapon of speed is handy, but so is anything that causes winning of initiative, and in 1e that is many things...haste, speed potion, multiple attack routines from high level fighting ability. This last makes the almost mandatory multiclassing of thieves to be combat-capable even more tempting (fighter/thief can fight, and eventually evade more as they win initiative more). Dual/Quit class thief-acrobats, ditto. Side note on the strangely designed 1e bard...there was no reason not to include UA features if UA is used at all...so weapon specialization when a fighter (L5-7), and thief-acrobat  (L6-8) on the way to Bard-hood. Pretty minor, the thief part, but maybe useful & all such had the high str score needed (and quite likely the dex too). Now, I think the class ought just keep all the thief abilities continuing as they rise in level (they are paying for the extras with high ability scores & requiring more XP to level up now), but for the offical minded, there was some info in Dragon 103, unearthed arcana errata. [ATTACH=full]408842[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]408843[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]408844[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]408845[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]408846[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

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