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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 199802" data-attributes="member: 3139"><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, please. I <strong> am </strong> an idiot, afterall. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Okay, you got me here. Let me rephrase: Adamantine cannot be used to replace wood components when the functionality of the weapon is compromised by using a metal instead of wood. You could not replace a longbow's wood with adamantine, but you could with a battleaxe, because a longbow could not function, while a battleaxe could.</p><p></p><p>An adamantine longbow would be unable to bend under the strength of a PC, considering it is an "ultrahard metal."</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not necessarily. The book does not say whether or not an adamantine battleaxe has a wooden haft. Clearly, the picture in the PHB shows that a <strong> normal </strong> battleaxe has a wooden haft.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You are putting words into that that aren't there. The text says that the battleaxe is made out of adamantine. A "battleaxe" is defined as a head and a haft. It does not say that the <strong> head </strong> of the battleaxe is made out of adamantine. Therefore, the battleaxe is made out of adamantine.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Neat, you have shown that I was wrong, but you have not shown that you are right.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Just did.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>That A) the amount of material used is crucial to determining the enhancement bonus of the weapon, B) That an adamantine battleaxe would be a stupid investment if the entire weapon did not receive the bonus of 20/40.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>No, I am suggesting that your version of an adamantine battleaxe is lame because it can be sundered exactly like a normal battleaxe.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Thank you.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I'd make my life really complicated if I gave my players a 9,310 gp adamantine battleaxe and sundered it with 10 points of damage.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Actually, I would contend that an arrow cannot gain an enhancement bonus from adamantine. Considering that <strong> is </strong> my stance, I think I will ask that question...</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>No it's not. Adamantine is non-magical, remember?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Okay, I will.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Nope, it's the DBS rule.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Chapter and verse, please. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>1) I didn't write the game. The game says that arrows don't deal ranged damage, therefore they don't deal ranged damage. Of course it's stupid, but them's the rules.</p><p></p><p>2) Enchanted arrows are not weapons, they are ammuntion.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>This is really the best argument I have, which has not yet been countered. Please attempt to break this. I would like adamantine arrows as much as the next guy... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 199802, member: 3139"] [B] [/B] Yes, please. I [B] am [/B] an idiot, afterall. ;) [B] [/B] Okay, you got me here. Let me rephrase: Adamantine cannot be used to replace wood components when the functionality of the weapon is compromised by using a metal instead of wood. You could not replace a longbow's wood with adamantine, but you could with a battleaxe, because a longbow could not function, while a battleaxe could. An adamantine longbow would be unable to bend under the strength of a PC, considering it is an "ultrahard metal." [B] [/B] Not necessarily. The book does not say whether or not an adamantine battleaxe has a wooden haft. Clearly, the picture in the PHB shows that a [B] normal [/B] battleaxe has a wooden haft. [B] [/B] You are putting words into that that aren't there. The text says that the battleaxe is made out of adamantine. A "battleaxe" is defined as a head and a haft. It does not say that the [B] head [/B] of the battleaxe is made out of adamantine. Therefore, the battleaxe is made out of adamantine. [B] [/B] Neat, you have shown that I was wrong, but you have not shown that you are right. [B] [/B] Just did. [B] [/B] That A) the amount of material used is crucial to determining the enhancement bonus of the weapon, B) That an adamantine battleaxe would be a stupid investment if the entire weapon did not receive the bonus of 20/40. [B] [/B] No, I am suggesting that your version of an adamantine battleaxe is lame because it can be sundered exactly like a normal battleaxe. [B] [/B] Thank you. [B] [/B] I'd make my life really complicated if I gave my players a 9,310 gp adamantine battleaxe and sundered it with 10 points of damage. [B] [/B] Actually, I would contend that an arrow cannot gain an enhancement bonus from adamantine. Considering that [B] is [/B] my stance, I think I will ask that question... [B] [/B] No it's not. Adamantine is non-magical, remember? [B] [/B] Okay, I will. [B] [/B] Nope, it's the DBS rule. [B] [/B] Chapter and verse, please. :) . . . [B] [/B] 1) I didn't write the game. The game says that arrows don't deal ranged damage, therefore they don't deal ranged damage. Of course it's stupid, but them's the rules. 2) Enchanted arrows are not weapons, they are ammuntion. [B] [/B] This is really the best argument I have, which has not yet been countered. Please attempt to break this. I would like adamantine arrows as much as the next guy... ;) [/QUOTE]
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