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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 200209" data-attributes="member: 3139"><p></p><p></p><p>True that, but you would need a more powerful version of a bow made out of stronger materials in order to effectively project a steel arrow. </p><p></p><p>(Which is a house rule. And that I would allow. Adamantine Composite Longbow, anyone? The hardest part would be finding a bowstring that would support that much force. And you would be required to have higher than an 18 Str to wield it.) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>It is not plausable to contend that a steel arrow cannot effectively fly using a normal bow? </p><p></p><p>It is not plausable to contend that an adamantine battleaxe is, in fact, made out of adamantine? </p><p></p><p>It is not reasonable to contend that an arrow with an adamantine head should not give a +2 enhancement bonus when a dagger receives a +1 bonus and the bonus is based on the amount of adamantine used?</p><p></p><p>It is not plausable to contend that an adamantine longbow could not be bent by a human?</p><p></p><p>I will both take and eat my cake, thank you very much.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Both. Since both support my view and neither support yours.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Neat, it's a "bizarre assertion" that adamantine can replace some materials sometimes. I guess I don't allow adamantine hide armor, but I sure as hell allow adamantine quarterstaffs. </p><p></p><p>Now tell me hong, should I allow the former or disallow the latter?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Game balance has nothing to do with the rules? The fact that an adamantine battleaxe is functionally worthless compared to an adamantine longsword, and yet they both cost the same has nothing to do with the rules? Neat. I guess I'll remember this the next time I DM:</p><p></p><p><em> Hong's Eighth Law: The Rules should never bow to the weight of game balance. </em></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Neat. Magic does not have consistency. An adamantine arrowhead would give a +2 enhancement bonus while a dagger would give +1, even though the rules and the ingame descriptions directly counter this view on multiple points.</p><p></p><p>Using this rationale, a shortspear would have a higher enhancement bonus than a halfspear, even though you could concievably interchange heads.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Oh, I'm sorry...I forgot to put the "quote" html around that phrase:</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Considering that I said this:</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>And you said this:</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Then next time, I will reply with this:</p><p></p><p> </p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Um...because they are two different types of enhancement bonuses? One is magical and the other is natural. I could make the same case with leather armor, and I would be incorrect. Or are you saying that we should allow adamantine leather armor?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 200209, member: 3139"] [B] [/B] True that, but you would need a more powerful version of a bow made out of stronger materials in order to effectively project a steel arrow. (Which is a house rule. And that I would allow. Adamantine Composite Longbow, anyone? The hardest part would be finding a bowstring that would support that much force. And you would be required to have higher than an 18 Str to wield it.) ;) . . . [B] [/B] It is not plausable to contend that a steel arrow cannot effectively fly using a normal bow? It is not plausable to contend that an adamantine battleaxe is, in fact, made out of adamantine? It is not reasonable to contend that an arrow with an adamantine head should not give a +2 enhancement bonus when a dagger receives a +1 bonus and the bonus is based on the amount of adamantine used? It is not plausable to contend that an adamantine longbow could not be bent by a human? I will both take and eat my cake, thank you very much. [B] [/B] Both. Since both support my view and neither support yours. [B] [/B] Neat, it's a "bizarre assertion" that adamantine can replace some materials sometimes. I guess I don't allow adamantine hide armor, but I sure as hell allow adamantine quarterstaffs. Now tell me hong, should I allow the former or disallow the latter? [B] [/B] Game balance has nothing to do with the rules? The fact that an adamantine battleaxe is functionally worthless compared to an adamantine longsword, and yet they both cost the same has nothing to do with the rules? Neat. I guess I'll remember this the next time I DM: [I] Hong's Eighth Law: The Rules should never bow to the weight of game balance. [/I] [B] [/B] Neat. Magic does not have consistency. An adamantine arrowhead would give a +2 enhancement bonus while a dagger would give +1, even though the rules and the ingame descriptions directly counter this view on multiple points. Using this rationale, a shortspear would have a higher enhancement bonus than a halfspear, even though you could concievably interchange heads. [B] [/B] Oh, I'm sorry...I forgot to put the "quote" html around that phrase: [B] [/B] Considering that I said this: [B] [/B] And you said this: [B] [/B] Then next time, I will reply with this: [B] [/B] . . [B] [/B] Um...because they are two different types of enhancement bonuses? One is magical and the other is natural. I could make the same case with leather armor, and I would be incorrect. Or are you saying that we should allow adamantine leather armor? [/QUOTE]
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