Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
add 1/2 level to ability checks? What? Why?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="katahn" data-source="post: 4287365" data-attributes="member: 65004"><p>I waded through 5 or so pages of this before I got fed up and had to reply.</p><p></p><p>Regardless of feats, skills, abilities, or levels, a character cannot do something that is impossible for them to do.</p><p></p><p>In other words, if opening a portcullus requires deadlifting 8,000lbs, then NO player character with a strength that isn't well into the super-human range is going to succeed.</p><p></p><p>In other words, not even John McClaine is going to throw a Cadellac through a store window. Not even Chuck Norris is going to deadlift and then drop-kick a APC.</p><p></p><p>This is up there in silliness with someone asking how many hit points a mountain has and how long it would take him to kill it with his +200 dagger of awesomeness.</p><p></p><p>This is up there in silliness with any sort of rules that say a person could survive a fall from orbit (Spelljammer, I'm looking at you here, prior editions of D&D in general too!)</p><p></p><p>There's just some occasions where common sense has to be a reality check against rules applied in ridiculous circumstances. This is what makes D&D and other PnP games inherently superior to online games: the presence of a DM who can thwap the player at the table who seriously suggests that their halfling wizard with an 8 strength at level 1, 10 strength at level 30, is going to deadlift an 8,000lb object without using any powers or spells purely based on their +15 modifier due to level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="katahn, post: 4287365, member: 65004"] I waded through 5 or so pages of this before I got fed up and had to reply. Regardless of feats, skills, abilities, or levels, a character cannot do something that is impossible for them to do. In other words, if opening a portcullus requires deadlifting 8,000lbs, then NO player character with a strength that isn't well into the super-human range is going to succeed. In other words, not even John McClaine is going to throw a Cadellac through a store window. Not even Chuck Norris is going to deadlift and then drop-kick a APC. This is up there in silliness with someone asking how many hit points a mountain has and how long it would take him to kill it with his +200 dagger of awesomeness. This is up there in silliness with any sort of rules that say a person could survive a fall from orbit (Spelljammer, I'm looking at you here, prior editions of D&D in general too!) There's just some occasions where common sense has to be a reality check against rules applied in ridiculous circumstances. This is what makes D&D and other PnP games inherently superior to online games: the presence of a DM who can thwap the player at the table who seriously suggests that their halfling wizard with an 8 strength at level 1, 10 strength at level 30, is going to deadlift an 8,000lb object without using any powers or spells purely based on their +15 modifier due to level. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
add 1/2 level to ability checks? What? Why?
Top