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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thasmodious" data-source="post: 4287530" data-attributes="member: 63272">I agree with your point in general, but come on, not even Chuck Norris?  This is the man who was beaten to near death and buried alive in his truck and then woke up and drove his truck through the earth, the Earth to emerge from the ground and kill everybody.  This is the man who doesn't have a chin behind his beard, only another fist.  I think he can handle your APC.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Hey, that would be a better answer than 10 pages of long posts to these ridiculous corner cases.  Should a wizard be able to lift a super portcullis merely because he has gained levels?Chuck Norris could.Shouldn't items have hardness?Only Chuck Norris has hardness.I could be mistaken, but I don't think Mallus was disagreeing with you about deadlifting 8000 lbs, only about the source of the +1/2 lvl bonus.  It is a neat way of looking at it, that the bonus is not so much experience, but a character tapping further into the cosmic source of his power (arcane, divine, martial, etc) as he grows in heroic (or diabolic) stature.</blockquote>