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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 4780557" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>that would also require the following to be mistakes.</p><p></p><p>Unicorn Celestial Charger, <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/neutralizePoison.htm" target="_blank">neutralize poison</a> ability (DC 20) is only adjusted for monster HD and higher charisma.</p><p><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/mummy.htm#mummyLord" target="_blank">Mummy Lord's</a> Despair and Mummy rot are only adjusted for the higher charisma, not the 10 cleric HD.</p><p></p><p>Sure looks Monster HD are what affects DC for monsters that then have character classes added on. If the monster becomes a stronger monster [monster HD], the monstrous abilities become stronger.</p><p></p><p>Also there is the faq entry if the anecdotal evidence is not sufficient.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a</a></p><p><em><strong>Do creatures with special attacks increase the DC for</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>those attacks when they gain class levels? Are they</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>calculated based on the creature’s new ECL or its new CR?</strong></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Unless specifically noted in a monster description, the DC</em></p><p><em>of a creature’s innate special attacks depends only on its racial</em></p><p><em>HD, and not from HD gained from class levels. A horned devil</em></p><p><em>who gained levels of fighter, for instance, would not use its</em></p><p><em>fighter HD to calculate the DC of its fear aura or stun</em></p><p><em>supernatural special attacks. A creature’s ECL or CR has no</em></p><p><em>effect whatsoever on the save DCs for its special attacks or any</em></p><p><em>other ability.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>However, if the creature’s ability scores change—such as</em></p><p><em>from the increase at every 4-HD interval—that might well</em></p><p><em>affect the DCs of its special attacks. If that horned devil, for</em></p><p><em>instance, improved its Strength from 31 to 32 when it gained its</em></p><p><em>first class level (giving it 16 HD total), its stun save DC would</em></p><p><em>improve by 1. Each special attack lists the ability score upon</em></p><p><em>which it is based (such as Strength for the horned devil’s stun).</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 4780557, member: 1164"] that would also require the following to be mistakes. Unicorn Celestial Charger, [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/neutralizePoison.htm"]neutralize poison[/URL] ability (DC 20) is only adjusted for monster HD and higher charisma. [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/mummy.htm#mummyLord"]Mummy Lord's[/URL] Despair and Mummy rot are only adjusted for the higher charisma, not the 10 cleric HD. Sure looks Monster HD are what affects DC for monsters that then have character classes added on. If the monster becomes a stronger monster [monster HD], the monstrous abilities become stronger. Also there is the faq entry if the anecdotal evidence is not sufficient. [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a[/url] [I][B]Do creatures with special attacks increase the DC for those attacks when they gain class levels? Are they calculated based on the creature’s new ECL or its new CR?[/B] Unless specifically noted in a monster description, the DC of a creature’s innate special attacks depends only on its racial HD, and not from HD gained from class levels. A horned devil who gained levels of fighter, for instance, would not use its fighter HD to calculate the DC of its fear aura or stun supernatural special attacks. A creature’s ECL or CR has no effect whatsoever on the save DCs for its special attacks or any other ability. However, if the creature’s ability scores change—such as from the increase at every 4-HD interval—that might well affect the DCs of its special attacks. If that horned devil, for instance, improved its Strength from 31 to 32 when it gained its first class level (giving it 16 HD total), its stun save DC would improve by 1. Each special attack lists the ability score upon which it is based (such as Strength for the horned devil’s stun).[/I] [/QUOTE]
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