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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8151823" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>Really? Only two PCs against 20+ kobolds?</p><p>1) Do not forget that they have pack tactics. So they get advantage if one of them is close to their target PC.</p><p>2) Put two of them (per PC) near their target PCs and use the Dodge action.</p><p>3) Have the rest pester the PCs with missile attacks.</p><p>4) Have a few of them get blessed by a caster. Nothing prevents you from having a kobold priest.</p><p>5) Have a few more casters and attack your PCs with save spells. These PCs should have a hard time against save spells.</p><p>6) Have the kobolds spread thin so that area of effect do not hit that many at the same time.</p><p></p><p>Are these two PCs really 3rd and 4th levels only?</p><p>What type of magic items do they have? And more importantly... how many?</p><p>Is it a 5 minutes work day? </p><p>Do you use attrition to remove a lot of their ressources or are they always fresh?</p><p></p><p>I can assure you that even 6th level PCs would be hard pressed with 20 kobolds including casters. Something does not add up to what I know of the game. An AC 18 for 3rd and 4th level PC should be hard to hit. It means that at +5 to hit, they need a 13 on a d20 to hit. This is a 60% miss chance... As for our Kobolds, your PCs should be around AC 19-20 Which means that the kobolds would need a 16 (let's assume AC 20) and with advantage this translate into a +5 to hit so kobolds would miss about 55% of the time. 1d4 +2 average 5 points of damage so it's 5x20x 0.45 or 45 points of damage per round between the PCs... Unless you give them full HP each level, it means that your two PCs are dead on the first round. If you give a bless spell so some kobold as I have said, you add about 6 points of damage to that...</p><p></p><p>I fail to see how, within the normality, only two characters could wipe out 20+ kobolds...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8151823, member: 6855114"] Really? Only two PCs against 20+ kobolds? 1) Do not forget that they have pack tactics. So they get advantage if one of them is close to their target PC. 2) Put two of them (per PC) near their target PCs and use the Dodge action. 3) Have the rest pester the PCs with missile attacks. 4) Have a few of them get blessed by a caster. Nothing prevents you from having a kobold priest. 5) Have a few more casters and attack your PCs with save spells. These PCs should have a hard time against save spells. 6) Have the kobolds spread thin so that area of effect do not hit that many at the same time. Are these two PCs really 3rd and 4th levels only? What type of magic items do they have? And more importantly... how many? Is it a 5 minutes work day? Do you use attrition to remove a lot of their ressources or are they always fresh? I can assure you that even 6th level PCs would be hard pressed with 20 kobolds including casters. Something does not add up to what I know of the game. An AC 18 for 3rd and 4th level PC should be hard to hit. It means that at +5 to hit, they need a 13 on a d20 to hit. This is a 60% miss chance... As for our Kobolds, your PCs should be around AC 19-20 Which means that the kobolds would need a 16 (let's assume AC 20) and with advantage this translate into a +5 to hit so kobolds would miss about 55% of the time. 1d4 +2 average 5 points of damage so it's 5x20x 0.45 or 45 points of damage per round between the PCs... Unless you give them full HP each level, it means that your two PCs are dead on the first round. If you give a bless spell so some kobold as I have said, you add about 6 points of damage to that... I fail to see how, within the normality, only two characters could wipe out 20+ kobolds... [/QUOTE]
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