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<blockquote data-quote="Kaledor" data-source="post: 5446140" data-attributes="member: 15360">This question came up in our last game, one player had been playing it one way the entire time, the DM never questioned, but then a new player joined and he had a different interpretation.If a power has an additional effect that causes variable damage later in the round, would that power gain all of the traditional power bonuses the player is normally entitled to?&nbsp; Take for instance the sorcerer power, Explosive Pyre:Let's say the Sorcerer in question has a high Cha, a +2 magic implement, and a feat that gives them +1 to damage.On their initial roll, they of course get every bonus to attack and to damage.&nbsp; But later in the round, when they are supposed to roll 1d6 for other creatures, would they get their +2 implement bonus?&nbsp; What about their +1 feat bonus?&nbsp; Obviously no Cha bonus here b/c it doesn't say so in the effect, but would all the other bonuses apply?(And then the real bulk of the disagreement at our table) Would your answer change if the power listed a flat amount or a non-roll amount, like:&quot;The creature takes 5 fire damage.&quot; or&quot;The creature takes fire damage equal to your charisma modifier.&quot;Just curious and looking for a consensus from the community.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaledor, post: 5446140, member: 15360"] This question came up in our last game, one player had been playing it one way the entire time, the DM never questioned, but then a new player joined and he had a different interpretation. If a power has an additional effect that causes variable damage later in the round, would that power gain all of the traditional power bonuses the player is normally entitled to? Take for instance the sorcerer power, Explosive Pyre: Let's say the Sorcerer in question has a high Cha, a +2 magic implement, and a feat that gives them +1 to damage. On their initial roll, they of course get every bonus to attack and to damage. But later in the round, when they are supposed to roll 1d6 for other creatures, would they get their +2 implement bonus? What about their +1 feat bonus? Obviously no Cha bonus here b/c it doesn't say so in the effect, but would all the other bonuses apply? (And then the real bulk of the disagreement at our table) Would your answer change if the power listed a flat amount or a non-roll amount, like: "The creature takes 5 fire damage." or "The creature takes fire damage equal to your charisma modifier." Just curious and looking for a consensus from the community. [/QUOTE]

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