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<blockquote data-quote="Drudenfusz" data-source="post: 6508500" data-attributes="member: 73113">I certainly don't think that adding finesse would a good idea there... it seems also not really necessary, since all classes which have access to this rely on strength for melee combat anyway. Giving an action, and an attack at that, seems really not the way those fighting styles are meant to be. Sure, maybe something could be done there, maybe I will ad that this can be upgrated to a d6 if one would get a d4 damge from another source for unarmed combat. But I am also interested in other suggestions too, so keep them coming!I used the word I wanted to use there (it is a real word). But I like your suggestion too, maybe I will cange it. Keeped the name even though it was not the idea with which I started, so I can understand that it might be confusing. Anyway, I don't think that feat is weak, actually, I think it is quite strong. Same goes for +2 Initiative. In previous edition that might not have been much (I looking especially here at 4th Edition), but in 5th, there are not many initiative bonuses (are there any except the one feat? Which is not even available for tables that decide to play without feats). Also, I think it is better to have options that are sleightly on the weak side instead of providing strong options that only a power creep going, some people will take the option that you might think is weak and still enjoy having it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Drudenfusz, post: 6508500, member: 73113"] I certainly don't think that adding finesse would a good idea there... it seems also not really necessary, since all classes which have access to this rely on strength for melee combat anyway. Giving an action, and an attack at that, seems really not the way those fighting styles are meant to be. Sure, maybe something could be done there, maybe I will ad that this can be upgrated to a d6 if one would get a d4 damge from another source for unarmed combat. But I am also interested in other suggestions too, so keep them coming! I used the word I wanted to use there (it is a real word). But I like your suggestion too, maybe I will cange it. Keeped the name even though it was not the idea with which I started, so I can understand that it might be confusing. Anyway, I don't think that feat is weak, actually, I think it is quite strong. Same goes for +2 Initiative. In previous edition that might not have been much (I looking especially here at 4th Edition), but in 5th, there are not many initiative bonuses (are there any except the one feat? Which is not even available for tables that decide to play without feats). Also, I think it is better to have options that are sleightly on the weak side instead of providing strong options that only a power creep going, some people will take the option that you might think is weak and still enjoy having it. [/QUOTE]

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