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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sagiro" data-source="post: 1482600" data-attributes="member: 726">Lots of interesting and good thoughts here, and I'm inclined to agree with much of what's been said.   One area where I think I don't agree (and I'll use Pielorinho's and Liquidsabre's specific examples) is the named vs. unnamed distinction.  That seems strangely arbitary.  Named by whom?  For how long?  By how many people?  Joe's house may not have a sign on that says "Joe's House," but that's still what it is.  If you ask Joe's neighbor if the house has a name, or at least a descriptor, "Joe's House" would be it.I'd allow "Joe's House," assuming Joe was a known person with a fixed abode.  Of course, Joe might not be home when you get there -- the spell is finding the location, not the person.  But if Joe were an itinerant who had no fixed address, and stayed in a different cottage every night, the spell wouldn't work on "Joe's House," even if Joe were in a house when you cast the spell.Likewise for the example of "Tira Doomweaver's castle" given above.  If there's a person named Tira Doomweaver who has taken up residence in a castle and rules the surrounding countryside from there, but isn't going to formally name the place "Castle Doomweaver" until tomorrow, it seems wonky that the spell won't work tonight but it will next week.One thing that this thread has made me ponder is the list of ways in which a location can de described and defined.  Here are some:- commonly-used or common-sense name: "Sherwood Forest"  "Castle Blackhope" - location relative to fixed known landmarks:  "The ruins south of the Razorback Mountains"  "The stone circle closest to Port Fortune's graveyard."  "The closest exit from this dungeon that is not the one through which we entered."- activities that have occurred there in the past:  "The clearing where last year's gnome-tossing championships were held."  - activites that are occuring there in the present: "The dungeon where Mad Holyck Hairpuller tortures his prisoners."- the owner of the location: "King Josric's summer estate"  "Joe's House"  "Tira Doomweaver's Castle"- relative distance from the caster: "The closest pine forest"  "The farthest-away dimensional portal that's still within 100 miles."- objects in the place:  "The house containing Leonardo's famous Statue of the Mad Monk."There are probably more.  I wonder if this kind of categorization could be used to generate more fixed rules for how the spell works, where each category either always or never works?  Thanks for the continued discussion!-Sagiro</blockquote>

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