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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9633493" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>It looks to me like the rogue has 3/4 cover from enemies 2 and 3, but not from 1. So, they can make their Stealth check to try to hide from enemies 2 and 3, and assuming they get above 15 and above those enemies’ passive Perception scores, those enemies will have disadvantage on their saves. Enemy 1 will not have disadvantage because the rogue will not be hidden from it.</p><p></p><p>[EDIT: On further inspection, I think the rogue might only have half cover from enemy 2. Because of the diagonal positioning of the cart, it’s unclear if it should be blocking 2’s line of sight to the left-hand corners of the rogue’s space. I tend to err on the side of ruling in the players’ favor in cases like this, so my answer doesn’t change, but I think there’s an equally valid case to be made that the rogue can only hide from enemy 3.]</p><p></p><p>Note, I believe by RAW the rogue might not actually be able to hide because there’s an enemy that can see them, but I’m not 100% confident in that and I think it’s stupid anyway, so since you’re asking how I would rule, they can.</p><p></p><p>Rogue appears to have half cover from both 1 and 2, which due to Naturally Stealthy is sufficient to try to hide from them. Both will have disadvantage on their saves if the rogue passes the Stealth check.</p><p></p><p>Rogue is heavily obscured from 1, 2, and 3, so they can try to hide from all of three. They can “see” all of three due to blindsight, so they can target all three with Hideous Laughter and all three will have disadvantage assuming the rogue passes the check.</p><p></p><p>Assuming none of the enemies have previously passed their Intelligence checks to determine the illusory nature of the walls and perceive them as translucent, rogue has total cover from all three and should be able to hide from them. All three will have disadvantage on their saves if the rogue passes their check.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Rogue only has half cover from any of the enemies. Since the cover is not being granted by a Medium or larger creature, Naturally Stealthy does not apply, and the rogue does not meet the conditions required to hide from any of them. If they use their bonus action to try to hide, a check is not needed to determine that they fail, and the bonus action would simply be wasted, though I would of course point this out to the player and allow them to decide to use a different bonus action if they wanted to, since this fact should be obvious to the character. The rogue can of course still cast Hideous Laughter, but none of the enemies will have disadvantage on their saves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 9633493, member: 6779196"] It looks to me like the rogue has 3/4 cover from enemies 2 and 3, but not from 1. So, they can make their Stealth check to try to hide from enemies 2 and 3, and assuming they get above 15 and above those enemies’ passive Perception scores, those enemies will have disadvantage on their saves. Enemy 1 will not have disadvantage because the rogue will not be hidden from it. [EDIT: On further inspection, I think the rogue might only have half cover from enemy 2. Because of the diagonal positioning of the cart, it’s unclear if it should be blocking 2’s line of sight to the left-hand corners of the rogue’s space. I tend to err on the side of ruling in the players’ favor in cases like this, so my answer doesn’t change, but I think there’s an equally valid case to be made that the rogue can only hide from enemy 3.] Note, I believe by RAW the rogue might not actually be able to hide because there’s an enemy that can see them, but I’m not 100% confident in that and I think it’s stupid anyway, so since you’re asking how I would rule, they can. Rogue appears to have half cover from both 1 and 2, which due to Naturally Stealthy is sufficient to try to hide from them. Both will have disadvantage on their saves if the rogue passes the Stealth check. Rogue is heavily obscured from 1, 2, and 3, so they can try to hide from all of three. They can “see” all of three due to blindsight, so they can target all three with Hideous Laughter and all three will have disadvantage assuming the rogue passes the check. Assuming none of the enemies have previously passed their Intelligence checks to determine the illusory nature of the walls and perceive them as translucent, rogue has total cover from all three and should be able to hide from them. All three will have disadvantage on their saves if the rogue passes their check. Rogue only has half cover from any of the enemies. Since the cover is not being granted by a Medium or larger creature, Naturally Stealthy does not apply, and the rogue does not meet the conditions required to hide from any of them. If they use their bonus action to try to hide, a check is not needed to determine that they fail, and the bonus action would simply be wasted, though I would of course point this out to the player and allow them to decide to use a different bonus action if they wanted to, since this fact should be obvious to the character. The rogue can of course still cast Hideous Laughter, but none of the enemies will have disadvantage on their saves. [/QUOTE]
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