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<blockquote data-quote="The Grassy Gnoll" data-source="post: 6547643" data-attributes="member: 6788652">To operate a stepped scale of damage for a miss of 2 or less begs an equally stepped scale if the roll is over the target figure by 2 or less. I'm sure there are systems out there that accommodate this kind if granularity, but I'm not convinced that 5e is one of them. That said, I always describe the result to my players. Sometimes it's a simple &quot;he misses you by a whisker&quot;, other times it's &quot;your weapons clash and you struggle for a moment before the Orc breaks free&quot;. I base it on the closeness of the roll, but it's very freeform and fluid. It's particularly satisfying watching their faces when I say &quot;the orc's axe smashes into your arm...(serious face)...but bounces off your armour&quot;...But, if the combatant misses the AC roll, they miss. I operate a double damage on a natural 20/fumble on a 1*, but beyond that a miss is a miss is a miss. * my fumble house rule is if you roll a natural 1, you miss badly. Roll again and another natural 1 results in friendly fire to yourself or your companions; anything else, again depending on how high the roll is, is described as some sort of mishap. Usually it's a tangle or a stumble or a weapon wedged in the scenery resulting in Disadvantage for next turn.This week I had a player roll a fumble and then roll a natural 20. I ruled that they pulled the arrow from the quiver, it dropped, bounced and ended up back in the quiver! The accompanying &quot;what the...&quot; accounted for the Disadvantage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Grassy Gnoll, post: 6547643, member: 6788652"] To operate a stepped scale of damage for a miss of 2 or less begs an equally stepped scale if the roll is over the target figure by 2 or less. I'm sure there are systems out there that accommodate this kind if granularity, but I'm not convinced that 5e is one of them. That said, I always describe the result to my players. Sometimes it's a simple "he misses you by a whisker", other times it's "your weapons clash and you struggle for a moment before the Orc breaks free". I base it on the closeness of the roll, but it's very freeform and fluid. It's particularly satisfying watching their faces when I say "the orc's axe smashes into your arm...(serious face)...but bounces off your armour"... But, if the combatant misses the AC roll, they miss. I operate a double damage on a natural 20/fumble on a 1*, but beyond that a miss is a miss is a miss. * my fumble house rule is if you roll a natural 1, you miss badly. Roll again and another natural 1 results in friendly fire to yourself or your companions; anything else, again depending on how high the roll is, is described as some sort of mishap. Usually it's a tangle or a stumble or a weapon wedged in the scenery resulting in Disadvantage for next turn. This week I had a player roll a fumble and then roll a natural 20. I ruled that they pulled the arrow from the quiver, it dropped, bounced and ended up back in the quiver! The accompanying "what the..." accounted for the Disadvantage. [/QUOTE]

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