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<blockquote data-quote="Thyrwyn" data-source="post: 6549798" data-attributes="member: 12354">[MENTION=97077]iserith[/MENTION] - very early in my post I did say that I have no problem if you want to play that way - go for it and have fun!. I meant it sincerely. You asked what we thought - I am explaining why I would not run my table that way and why I would have reservations about joining a game that did.It is not a rule. It is a suggestion - or if you prefer &quot;Option.&quot; Just because it is written, does not make it a &quot;rule.&quot; Given all that we have about this situation, we have no means to determine the &quot;reason&quot; for the DM choosing to rule this way. The reason you suggested was that, the DM thought it &quot;[made] sense in the context of the fictional situation.&quot; How is that not a whim? There is nothing in the description of this particular circumstance that would lead an objective observer (or even the other players) to deem this situation different than any other involving a fighter attacking with his greatsword? The only thing that makes it different is that the DM said so - after seeing the die roll.I, and others, have already answered this. My at length response would require a thread of its own. Short Answer: I do not fit comfortably in the &quot;generally&quot; category.Maybe - it depends on the bigger picture, but in general no.(And it has nothing to do with &quot;adversarial DMs&quot;. I choose not to be one, nor do I play with them.)I like 5e because, in the moment, both as a DM and as a player, I do not have to crunch the numbers. I can just play. This choice takes me out of that moment. To me: this ruling in this situation seems arbitrary.You said earlier that this was not your ruling, that you just wanted people's opinions. In order to answer your question, those people need to consider &quot;potentially&quot;. The people you choose to play with, will also care about &quot;potentially&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thyrwyn, post: 6549798, member: 12354"] [MENTION=97077]iserith[/MENTION] - very early in my post I did say that I have no problem if you want to play that way - go for it and have fun!. I meant it sincerely. You asked what we thought - I am explaining why I would not run my table that way and why I would have reservations about joining a game that did. It is not a rule. It is a suggestion - or if you prefer "Option." Just because it is written, does not make it a "rule." Given all that we have about this situation, we have no means to determine the "reason" for the DM choosing to rule this way. The reason you suggested was that, the DM thought it "[made] sense in the context of the fictional situation." How is that not a whim? There is nothing in the description of this particular circumstance that would lead an objective observer (or even the other players) to deem this situation different than any other involving a fighter attacking with his greatsword? The only thing that makes it different is that the DM said so - [i]after seeing the die roll.[/i] I, and others, have already answered this. My at length response would require a thread of its own. Short Answer: I do not fit comfortably in the "generally" category. Maybe - it depends on the bigger picture, but in general no. (And it has nothing to do with "adversarial DMs". I choose not to be one, nor do I play with them.) I like 5e because,[I] in the moment[/I], both as a DM and as a player, I do not have to crunch the numbers. I can just play. This choice takes me out of that moment. To me: this ruling in this situation seems arbitrary. You said earlier that this was not your ruling, that you just wanted people's opinions. In order to answer your question, those people need to consider "potentially". The people you choose to play with, will also care about "potentially". [/QUOTE]

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