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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7077236" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Good points.If you don't mind me saying a word about that different conversation:I agree with you. I also think there's a lot of joy to be found in fighting mindless bags of hit points, sometimes, when the players are in the mood for that sort of thing. The DM just needs to realize that he has the power to create creatures which are mindless bags of hit points, instead of creating them as intelligent and then playing them as mindless. If you WANT a game where dragons are Int 2 flying lizards who mindlessly attack (like sharks in a feeding frenzy), then do so! But don't tell me that dragons are highly intelligent creatures with hundreds of years of experience under their belts, and then also play them like Int 2 flying lizards.As a DM, I like to run a world where armed conflict with intelligent, organized tool-users (like goblins and hobgoblins and other humans) is dangerous and an emotionally-significant event. That orc chief isn't going to divide his forces so you can defeat them in detail in a bunch of Medium-sized fights against two and three orcs at a time. No, if he's here to wipe out your village, you've got two choices: (1) find a way to decoy/trick/manipulate/maneuver/tempt his forces into dividing themselves into two or three groups (e.g. by releasing all the town's cattle onto the plains so that the orcs are tempted to pursue and steal them rather than letting them get away), or (2) fight two dozen orcs all at once. Or (3) run away.</blockquote>

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