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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Death By Surfeit" data-source="post: 647993" data-attributes="member: 8646">(Sorry for the late post. Personal lives are such an encumbrance...)Again Vrayven, thankyou for your input. Fresh input is always appreciated, and that applies to the countless lurkers watching this thread. You know who you are!With regards your comments:1) Masturbation and multiple partners: I think that masturbation is essentially an Arousal check performed on oneself, yes. It seems appropriate to allow only one Prowess check in a round, unless you're willing to accept a cumulative or staggering penalty... the DbS allowed people to make a Knowledge (Sexuality) check to negate the penalty (harder DCs when acting on more than two at once?), alongside making judgements about a person's sexual nature. Would we adopt this stance? It seems sensible to boost your performance and divine a person's sexual nature by mundane means as well as magical, and I'm for the supplication of the skill to the Guide.2) Hmm. The DbS conversion allowed an optional Fortitude save to anyone who wished to negate an Arousal check upon them - delaying and so forth. The DC was variable - the check result of the Prowess check. Thus someone who wished to stimulate an uncooperative partner had to not only face down the Arousal DC but also a resisted check each time. Is this an appropriate approach?3) I'm unsure about Profession (prostitute) - perhaps it ran the administrative side of things - getting a pimp, knowig the ins and outs (so to speak) of the business, faking it and so on. This would avoid any conflict with Prowess, and bring it into line with other Profession skills. Perhaps we should just eschew it altogether?With regards synergy bonuses, could we do it in an open-ended manner? As with the variable key attribute, should you have 5 or more ranks you think is appropriate for the situation in hand (Use Rope for bondage, Ride for more athletic sex, etc), you get a +2 synergy modifer (non-cumulative)? Again speaking as the creator of the DbS, we had them as a 'kink' modifier that only worked if your partner shared the kink - otherwise you took very heavy penalties (-10 penalty?). Perhaps this is the right way of going about it?Can a low-level person get very good at sexual activity without acquiring too many levels? Well, can he get very good at handling animals, jumping etc etc? Within the constraints of the system, yes (eg maxing out ranks, skill focus feats and so on). However to break this rule would go outside the D&D convention.The Ecstatic condition - a good idea, and a nice trump card for higher-level sexual characters to pull. Maybe it should be integrated into the current progression on the chart, making it double the DC for Climaxed at each level?I think, though, that the chart is designed to show physical arousal, and thus Horny, Lustful or Sexually Delirious should not be attainable by these ends.The modified Size Matters rules could likewise do with a little tweaking here and there. You didn't include a 'half a size category larger' level, which represents a phallus 337.5% its original size - at the very least, a whole size category larger should be doing physical damage no matter what. In proportion, the human penis is a Fine-sized object - at three size categories larger alone, you are describing a phallus the size of a child brought upon a human; an extraordinary feat in all but the least feasible (and stomachable) hentai movies. It may be almost shamelessly plagiarised, but I'd recommend the below:* * *Three or more sizes smaller: Fruitless. No appreciable sensation of any kind.Two sizes smaller: Pathetic. Both Prowess checks incur a -8 size penalty. Where penetration is just one element of intercourse (eg. open-ended Prowess check), this penalty is reduced to -4.One size smaller: Disappointing. Both Prowess checks incur a -4 size penalty. Where penetration is just one element of intercourse (eg. open-ended Prowess check), this penalty is reduced to -2.Half a size smaller: Weak. Both Prowess checks incur a -2 size penalty. Where penetration is just one element of intercourse (eg. open-ended Prowess check), this penalty is reduced to -1.Same size: No special rules.Half a size larger: Chunky. Both Prowess checks gain a +2 size bonus. The recipient incurs 1 point of subdual damage each turn, unless they can succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 10): work affairs out hard-focus in case of incurring unconsciousness (!).One size larger: Dangerous. Both Prowess checks gain a +4 size bonus. The recipient incurs 1 point of subdual damage for each Hit Dice they possess each turn. A successful Fortitude save (DC: 10 + partner’s HD) reduces this to just one point per turn. Apply hard-focus rules, as unconsciousness is likely.Two sizes larger: Lethal. Both Prowess checks gain a +8 size bonus. The recipient incurs 1 point of actual damage for each Hit Dice they possess each turn. A successful Fortitude save (DC: 15 + partner’s HD) reduces this to subdual damage. Use hard focus rules: affairs are likely to be very brief.Three or more sizes larger: All pain, no gain. Concerted attempts simply incur damage as if two sizes larger: see above.Where the phallus is a whole size category larger or more, the owner of said organ receives damage one degree less than the recipient due to tightness and constriction (an owner of a phallus two size categories larger would take damage as if he was receiving one one size category larger, for example).Note: All subdual or actual damage sustained in a round is deducted as a pain modifier from the Prowess check, unless the recipient is a masochist, in which case it is added as a bonus instead. This makes larger-size phalluses less useful in many circumstances.* * *As a final point, the desire to match the mechanics with the spells was a crucial role in the editing. Your offer of help is greatly appreciated, but we'd probably do best to figure out the mechanics beforehand.Thanks everyone, keep them ideas coming,DbS</blockquote>

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