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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Death By Surfeit" data-source="post: 780159" data-attributes="member: 8646">Nice to see so many contributions from everyone – keep up the good work! Relating toward everyone else’s posts and comments:1) Regarding duration: Looking back over the Draft Mechanics v0.1, I seem to have completely omitted a part of the Sexual Fatigue rules. Please consider the section revised to the effect that:Females can sustain (1 + Con bonus) rounds of Climax OR 1 round of Ecstasy before being considered Fatigued. After this, they can sustain a further (Con score) rounds of Climax OR 1 round of Ecstasy before being considered Exhausted.Males can sustain 1 round of Climax OR Ecstasy before being considered Fatigued. After this, they can sustain a further (1 + Con bonus) rounds of Climax OR 1 round of Ecstasy before being considered Exhausted.Hence, a female commoner could sustain 1 till Fatigue / 10 till exhaustion / 4 till unconsciousness or 15 rounds of Climax before passing out entirely. A male could sustain 1 till Fatigue / 1 till exhaustion / 4 till unconsciousness or 6 rounds of Climax before going out for the count.Somehow, although it had always worked like this in my head, I never transcribed it onto the Draft Mechanics (hence the confusion). My fault, sorry.2) Regarding the rules on appropriateness, ranks in Perform and such: congratulations to VVrayven and Asher, who have demonstrated the rules with precision and flair. Bonuses to VVrayven for showing the tactical thinking required!Hopefully these modifiers go some way toward stopping the ‘Prowess-maxed character bringing orgasm with a touch’ problem without hampering ordinary folk’s enjoyment too much. It also encourages resourcefulness and experimentation with different uses of the skill – and of course a little variation is seldom a bad thing.One small discrepancy with your example, VVrayven: not being proficient in an, um, proficiency does not incur any statistical modifiers (as it would based on weapon proficiencies), but instead removes the opportunity to add any rank bonus to the check (as it would with Perform performance techniques). The language is getting confusing - perhaps a renaming is in order for ‘proficiencies’? Oh, and your suggestion for different modifiers for different techniques is intriguing – care to go into greater detail?In answer to your question, Asher, the modifiers to the DC come into play when an inappropriate proficiency (form of Prowess) is applied. The kink bonuses and penalties are applied whenever something you do coincides with one of their fetishes or disagrees with one of their frets, which could be penetrative sex, clerics, magical devices or whatever.3) Regarding reciprocality: Your explanation is a good one, VVrayven; again your contributions are of brilliant quality, although mine in this case are a little vague. In the round in which the Prowess check is made against them, they must make a Prowess check back on their initiative pass. If they do not add their rank bonus to this, it is considered a free action and does not impose any penalties against any other checks they may wish to make.Basically this accounts for situations (perhaps including NC situations) where the person is ‘just lying there’ – they are (vaguely) pleasing to their partner, but would be better if they put some effort in; meanwhile, they are free to do other things as they wish.Example: Following a somewhat rowdy night at the tavern; a lot of drink; a few passes and one particularly adventurous dare, Linda the rogue is involved in a threesome with Gus the barbarian and Torg the fighter.Linda has a penchant for rough sex, and already Aroused. She is currently using her proficiency in Oral (Fellatio) to pleasure Torg, who is not yet Aroused. Her DC is a base of 13, plus 2 for use of an inappropriate technique for a total of 15.Meanwhile, Gus (also Aroused) is penetrating Linda from behind, using his proficiency in Penetrative (Rear). The DM rules that this is sufficient to satisfy Linda’s penchant for rough sex, and so applies the reduction to DC listed under the fetish. His DC is a base of 18, plus 2 for use of an inappropriate technique, minus 2 for Linda’s fetish, for a total of 18.On Linda’s turn, she makes a Prowess check back against him, but decides to let him do all the work (not applying Prowess bonus) in favour of concentrating on Torg. The DC for this is a base of 14, plus 2 for technique, for a total of 16.Torg is doing his best to return the favour by caressing Linda’s breasts – base DC 18, plus 2 for inappropriate technique, for a total of 20. As he has no appropriate proficiency (he hasn’t really done this type of thing before), he cannot add his Prowess rank bonus to this roll.That pretty much sums up the recent additions.4) Regarding Carnal Arts: Gez, whilst your suggestions are fitting, they have real ramifications for low level characters (anyone besides a monk would be effectively denied the Immaculate Forms, for example). Whilst it may deviate from the flavour of Martial Arts, I am wholly in favour of specific-feat Carnal Arts – you pay for what you get, and get what you pay for. That way nobody is denied Carnal Arts because they don’t have the extensive requisite feats, and neither do they receive a Carnal Art they didn’t work toward or desire for their character.It may be possible to do general-feat Carnal Arts, but they would probably be best left as an option or alternative.5) As ever, feedback from everyone. I’m diligently writing up the Core Mechanics (a harder task that I first thought), and I need all of your input to aid me. So please, any recommendations and contributions will be gratefully received.Cheers,DbS</blockquote>

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