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<blockquote data-quote="Death By Surfeit" data-source="post: 805078" data-attributes="member: 8646"><p>My goodness what a slew of contributions! A wonderful slew, might I add, but an awful lot to work through.</p><p></p><p>*dodges tickles*</p><p></p><p>Alright, I’ll start by addressing VVrayven’s Big Questions. Incidentally, the ‘Sexual Experience’ Art, or ‘Method of the Veteran’ as I would like to call it, is very good, although follows a significantly different style to the others (ie. Many low-key, low-prerequisite manoeuvres). What does everyone feel about this?</p><p></p><p>Anyways, in response to your queries, VVrayven,</p><p></p><p>1) I agree entirely.</p><p>2) Perhaps we should just leave it as ‘helpless’, as unless they make the save to be able to respond (almost) normally, that is precisely their situation.</p><p>3) So do I. Sorry, I was working from a somewhat antiquated version.</p><p>4) Some very good enquiries. Although I didn’t make it at all clear in the draft guide, I only listed Sodomy (receiving) as a proficiency for that exact reason – the person penetrating does not get to make a Prowess check, as there is no listed proficiency and it is not reciprocal.</p><p>DSM and Bondage do indeed need tweaking… I had some hazy thoughts around the idea of having those proficiencies for the acts solely relating to Bondage or DSM (such as humiliation/teasing/whatever), as where other checks are used in that context, a kink bonus applies instead (where appropriate).</p><p>5) Your late-night revelation (oh, the glories of concussive logic) sounds brilliant. When are Prowess checks worked out then? On the character’s initiative pass after their partner uses it on them (workable, but slightly awkward)?</p><p>6) Check.</p><p>7) Yes, that was my intention. If anyone could come up with a rewrite that makes this more clear, please do so. Alternatively, I could just insert a sentence stating that it is specifically so.</p><p>8) Great idea. An ‘atmosphere’ mod would be a really nice addition (although as this revolves around the physical aspect, mods would be slight).</p><p>9) Hmmm…. I have my own apprehensions as to the step mod as people may find it too cumbersome. I’ll come up with some modifiers in a moment, bear with me. What does everyone else think on the matter?</p><p>10) There does indeed seem to be gender bias. Now, although female stimulation is not actually much <em>harder</em> per se, it does tend to take more time than male stimulation. Hence, with people making progressive Prowess checks, it works out faster to stimulate a male than a female. If anyone thinks this mode of thinking is flawed, feel free to state so.</p><p>11) As Asher so correctly asserted, at –10 subdual HP, you do not die. In fact, subdual damage can just keep increasing and increasing, as its only profound effect is increasing the time before the character comes around.</p><p>12) Which one? Oh, right, add ‘smaller’ in there.</p><p>13) I’ll second that.</p><p>14) Hmmm… okay.</p><p></p><p>DrAltaica has quite a good idea on the alignment issue – it certainly clears up the rules awkwardness in *shudders* magical sex changes.</p><p></p><p>Countless adorations to VVrayven for dedicating the time and effort to coming up with a Java program to crunch our numbers – I didn’t want to spend long afternoons crunching dice, and this is a very glamorous alternative indeed.</p><p></p><p>Asher’s alternative table DCs (athough less stylish, bah) are a good fix to the ‘apparent ineptitude’ bug. I for one would reluctantly condone them.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and the ‘beauty in the eye of the beholder’ sidebar is a neat idea – I’m thinking along the lines of a +2 love bonus to Charisma in the eyes of a partner in love, or +4 if the partner has taken the True Love feat.</p><p></p><p>VVrayven, your ideas on issues of gratification are very much pertinent; I would adopt your rewriting of the gratification rules, and would a suggest a brief tweaking of the gratification table – perhaps knock out the ‘2’ step for Hard Focus, continuing as normal.</p><p></p><p>Although Hard Focus gratification seems much more profound, we do have to realise that getting a really high score is significantly hampered by Fatigue, and such an exhaustive session is likely to leave both characters somewhat, well, Exhausted. When Soft Focus is put up into a sidebar, we should insert a clause stating that both partners end up Fatigued, and a duration of congress based upon the check result (if interrupted or cut short, the result drops accordingly).</p><p></p><p>That covers the majority of everybody’s contributions, but I cannot take time enough to praise you all for the work you’ve done; indeed the main cause of delay (beyonds living requirements such as partying) has been working out a response to everything submitted. Please get back to me on the suitability of the suggestions posted above, add new content or with demonstrations of their application (in the case of Java Girl).</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p><p></p><p>DbS</p><p></p><p>PS. Sorn/Kolvar, could you post the working mechanics up onto the site in a collected form (albeit without the modifications we've made)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Death By Surfeit, post: 805078, member: 8646"] My goodness what a slew of contributions! A wonderful slew, might I add, but an awful lot to work through. *dodges tickles* Alright, I’ll start by addressing VVrayven’s Big Questions. Incidentally, the ‘Sexual Experience’ Art, or ‘Method of the Veteran’ as I would like to call it, is very good, although follows a significantly different style to the others (ie. Many low-key, low-prerequisite manoeuvres). What does everyone feel about this? Anyways, in response to your queries, VVrayven, 1) I agree entirely. 2) Perhaps we should just leave it as ‘helpless’, as unless they make the save to be able to respond (almost) normally, that is precisely their situation. 3) So do I. Sorry, I was working from a somewhat antiquated version. 4) Some very good enquiries. Although I didn’t make it at all clear in the draft guide, I only listed Sodomy (receiving) as a proficiency for that exact reason – the person penetrating does not get to make a Prowess check, as there is no listed proficiency and it is not reciprocal. DSM and Bondage do indeed need tweaking… I had some hazy thoughts around the idea of having those proficiencies for the acts solely relating to Bondage or DSM (such as humiliation/teasing/whatever), as where other checks are used in that context, a kink bonus applies instead (where appropriate). 5) Your late-night revelation (oh, the glories of concussive logic) sounds brilliant. When are Prowess checks worked out then? On the character’s initiative pass after their partner uses it on them (workable, but slightly awkward)? 6) Check. 7) Yes, that was my intention. If anyone could come up with a rewrite that makes this more clear, please do so. Alternatively, I could just insert a sentence stating that it is specifically so. 8) Great idea. An ‘atmosphere’ mod would be a really nice addition (although as this revolves around the physical aspect, mods would be slight). 9) Hmmm…. I have my own apprehensions as to the step mod as people may find it too cumbersome. I’ll come up with some modifiers in a moment, bear with me. What does everyone else think on the matter? 10) There does indeed seem to be gender bias. Now, although female stimulation is not actually much [I]harder[/I] per se, it does tend to take more time than male stimulation. Hence, with people making progressive Prowess checks, it works out faster to stimulate a male than a female. If anyone thinks this mode of thinking is flawed, feel free to state so. 11) As Asher so correctly asserted, at –10 subdual HP, you do not die. In fact, subdual damage can just keep increasing and increasing, as its only profound effect is increasing the time before the character comes around. 12) Which one? Oh, right, add ‘smaller’ in there. 13) I’ll second that. 14) Hmmm… okay. DrAltaica has quite a good idea on the alignment issue – it certainly clears up the rules awkwardness in *shudders* magical sex changes. Countless adorations to VVrayven for dedicating the time and effort to coming up with a Java program to crunch our numbers – I didn’t want to spend long afternoons crunching dice, and this is a very glamorous alternative indeed. Asher’s alternative table DCs (athough less stylish, bah) are a good fix to the ‘apparent ineptitude’ bug. I for one would reluctantly condone them. Oh, and the ‘beauty in the eye of the beholder’ sidebar is a neat idea – I’m thinking along the lines of a +2 love bonus to Charisma in the eyes of a partner in love, or +4 if the partner has taken the True Love feat. VVrayven, your ideas on issues of gratification are very much pertinent; I would adopt your rewriting of the gratification rules, and would a suggest a brief tweaking of the gratification table – perhaps knock out the ‘2’ step for Hard Focus, continuing as normal. Although Hard Focus gratification seems much more profound, we do have to realise that getting a really high score is significantly hampered by Fatigue, and such an exhaustive session is likely to leave both characters somewhat, well, Exhausted. When Soft Focus is put up into a sidebar, we should insert a clause stating that both partners end up Fatigued, and a duration of congress based upon the check result (if interrupted or cut short, the result drops accordingly). That covers the majority of everybody’s contributions, but I cannot take time enough to praise you all for the work you’ve done; indeed the main cause of delay (beyonds living requirements such as partying) has been working out a response to everything submitted. Please get back to me on the suitability of the suggestions posted above, add new content or with demonstrations of their application (in the case of Java Girl). Cheers, DbS PS. Sorn/Kolvar, could you post the working mechanics up onto the site in a collected form (albeit without the modifications we've made)? [/QUOTE]
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